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The Relationships Between Republicans And Conservatives (Cathryn Crawford)
Washington Dispatch ^
| October 31, 2003
| Cathryn Crawford
Posted on 10/31/2003 8:00:17 AM PST by Scenic Sounds
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To: tpaine
Again, typical.. I'd given you no arguments, insults or spam today, just an honest question Sorry but I have to disagree with you TP, in your reply #68 you posted the typical idealogical fetishist spam and you hide behind that.
Sure, no doubt, that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy, but does that gain votes, does it gain hearts?
Does your constant posting of how you are so superior further your cause?
It is up to you to answer the above question, IMO.
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posted on
10/31/2003 10:29:09 AM PST
by
Dane
To: Cathryn Crawford; Dane
They are one-issue Republicans.Dane calls me a one-issue malcontent for threatening not to vote for Bush if he signs the AWB.
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posted on
10/31/2003 10:33:02 AM PST
by
jmc813
(Michael Schiavo is a bigger scumbag than Bill Clinton)
To: Scenic Sounds
Senic Sounds wrote:
There are some conservatives who would not be willing to trade any of their personal sovereignty to permit government at any level to ban abortions.
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There are some conservatives who would not be willing to trade any of their personal sovereignty to permit government at any level to ban firearms.
There are some conservatives who would not be willing to trade any of their personal sovereignty to permit government at any level to ban booze, drugs, or smokes.
There are some conservatives who would not be willing to trade any of their personal sovereignty to permit government at any level to ban 'sinful' sex.
There are some conservatives who would not be willing to trade any of their personal sovereignty to permit government at any level to ban any aspect of our rights to life, liberty, and property.
What's amazing is that there are some self discribed 'conservatives' who ~are~ willing..
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posted on
10/31/2003 10:41:40 AM PST
by
tpaine
(I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but Arnie won, & politics as usual lost. Yo!)
To: jmc813
Dane calls me a one-issue malcontent for threatening not to vote for Bush if he signs the AWB I really don't care who you or Cathryn vote for or post who you want to vote for.
I just wish you two would stop playing micro machination issue games.
JMO, but you two, IMO, for some reason think I am Rudolph with a red nose, and wish to be part of your games.
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posted on
10/31/2003 10:43:07 AM PST
by
Dane
To: Cathryn Crawford
I beleive you can register Conservative in NY of all places, at least that was the case when was going to school at NYU and worked on Reagan's team in NY.
To: rdb3
"since the term is never completely defined."True, it isn't. That's why "conservative" Republicans can be in favor of a prescription drug program, just not as expensive as the DemocRAT's program.
A conservative with principles would not be in favor of this program at all, and would vote against it.
Following which, he would be ostracized by the rest of his congressional colleagues, then voted out of office by his constituents.
To: jmc813
I call that the "drug warrior mentality".There are similarities between the abortion and drug issues. Abortion and drugs are like most issues that we confront in that there are conservative principles that exist on each side. There exists tension and usually even direct conflict between these competing conservative principles.
So, it is only natural that conservatives fight with eachother about these issues and is is only natural that each side in each such fight will feel that it holds the genuinely conservative ground.
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posted on
10/31/2003 10:46:30 AM PST
by
Scenic Sounds
(Me caigo a mis rodillas y hablo a las estrellas de plata. "¿Qué misterios usted está encubriendo?")
To: Dane
JMO, but you two, IMO, for some reason think I am Rudolph with a red nose, and wish to be part of your games. As long as you're not RAGING RUDOLPH!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
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posted on
10/31/2003 10:47:29 AM PST
by
jmc813
(Michael Schiavo is a bigger scumbag than Bill Clinton)
To: tpaine
What you say is true, tpaine, but, as they say, every man has a price.
Aren't there some regulatory laws that you favor? Aren't there some laws that you are willing to trade some personal sovereignty for? ;-)
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posted on
10/31/2003 10:50:18 AM PST
by
Scenic Sounds
(Me caigo a mis rodillas y hablo a las estrellas de plata. "¿Qué misterios usted está encubriendo?")
To: rdb3
No, all Dems have principles. They are just principles with which we disagree. Not sure if I agree. I think I get what you are saying; for example, Bill Clinton may not hold even liberal political ideals as principles -- he'd happily sell socialism out if he thought it would benefit him personally -- but he holds to the principle that the highest good is whatever benefits Bill Clinton.
Yet I doubt if people like him could express such a "principle" in words even if he were honest enough to do so. If somebody asks me MY principles, I can right down a list. What would X-42 be able to write? His selfishness is not some well-thought out ideology -- it's crass & childish. If Bill Clinton has guiding principles, then so does a tomcat, and the whole term ceases to even be meaningful.
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posted on
10/31/2003 10:51:19 AM PST
by
Sloth
("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
To: jmc813
As long as you're not RAGING RUDOLPH!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHA Nah, I ain't some punk bands concoction, no matter how hard you try to push the point, dude.
Dude, take a debating class, it may do you some good in the future.
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posted on
10/31/2003 10:53:13 AM PST
by
Dane
To: robertpaulsen
A conservative with principles would not be in favor of this program at all, and would vote against it. This proves my point. What "conservative principles?" Even here the term is too airy, thus intangible.
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posted on
10/31/2003 10:56:36 AM PST
by
rdb3
(We're all gonna go, but I hate to go fast. Then again, it won't be fun to stick around and go last.)
To: Dane
Nah, I ain't some punk bands concoction, no matter how hard you try to push the point, dude. The link was to a video of a cartoon parody of the Rudolph Christmas special in which Rudolph, Santa, etc. are all part of the mob. Check it out. You'll like it.
Dude, take a debating class, it may do you some good in the future.
I'm not debating right now. I'm f@#$ing around waiting for my other job to start.
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posted on
10/31/2003 10:56:49 AM PST
by
jmc813
(Michael Schiavo is a bigger scumbag than Bill Clinton)
To: Dane
Again, typical.. I'd given you no arguments, insults or spam today, just an honest question
-tpaine-
____________________________________
Sorry but I have to disagree with you TP, in your reply #68 you posted the typical idealogical fetishist spam and you hide behind that.
-dane-
I 'hide' behind the constitutional positions of the RLC? You must be crazy to claim that.
--- In effect you're saying that JR posted "idealogical fetishist spam" on his own forum.
-- Read the thread, and in particular his near total support for the RLC position, with minor changes at #83:
REPUBLICAN LIBERTY CAUCUS POSITION STATEMENT
Address:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-rlc/721810/posts?page=83
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posted on
10/31/2003 10:59:23 AM PST
by
tpaine
(I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but Arnie won, & politics as usual lost. Yo!)
To: Sloth
If Bill Clinton has guiding principles, then so does a tomcat, and the whole term ceases to even be meaningful.Bingo! It has become a throw-away "feel good" pious term. Instead of talking about my "principles," I simply state what I think is right and what I think is wrong.
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posted on
10/31/2003 11:02:46 AM PST
by
rdb3
(We're all gonna go, but I hate to go fast. Then again, it won't be fun to stick around and go last.)
To: jmc813
The link was to a video of a cartoon parody of the Rudolph Christmas special in which Rudolph, Santa, etc. are all part of the mob. Check it out. You'll like it Sorry I don't partake in the "South Park" modern Libertarian Hollywood nihilistic debunking of postive messages.
Rudolph overcame his "perceived" faults by others and proved successful in the end.
I know, I know, you are going to moan that I brought Libertarianism into this thread, but with your above italicized reply, you mentioned something that is(for lack of a better word)"worthy" of South Park.
And the creators of South Park are professed Libertarians. Case closed, counselor.
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posted on
10/31/2003 11:06:51 AM PST
by
Dane
To: LanPB01
>>only one absolutely essential belief - feelings of nasuea and disgust at the very mention of anything Clinton.
thanks for your honesty
To: rdb3
I simply state what I think is right and what I think is wrong.Which is the way it should be..
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posted on
10/31/2003 11:08:03 AM PST
by
cardinal4
(Hillary and Clark rhymes with Ft Marcy park...)
To: Cathryn Crawford
Put me on your list, please.
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posted on
10/31/2003 11:09:16 AM PST
by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: Dane
Sorry I don't partake in the "South Park" modern Libertarian Hollywood nihilistic debunking of postive messages. It's not South Park, it originally aired on MAD TV.
And the creators of South Park are professed Libertarians. Case closed, counselor.
And there's no show on TV that skewers liberals nearly as well as South Park does so. Have you ever seen their attacks on Babs Streisand? Janet Reno? Klintoon? Classic stuff.
Anyhow, watch the video in the link. It's brilliant satire and has nothing to do with SP.
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posted on
10/31/2003 11:12:02 AM PST
by
jmc813
(Michael Schiavo is a bigger scumbag than Bill Clinton)
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