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U.S. Hawk Wants Russia Out of G-8; Richard Perle has called for Russia to be expelled...
Moscow Times ^
| 10-30-03
Posted on 10/30/2003 5:33:02 PM PST by Brian S
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posted on
10/30/2003 5:33:02 PM PST
by
Brian S
To: Brian S
Time for Perle to be excluded from making dumb comments
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posted on
10/30/2003 5:47:02 PM PST
by
Norse
To: Brian S; RussianConservative
You are going to have fun with this one.
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posted on
10/30/2003 5:49:31 PM PST
by
Simmy2.5
To: Brian S
Mikhail Khodorkovsky <== This guy draws a lot of sympathy from persons in our government. I wonder how many palms he has greased? Also, some one in state today was also talking about how bad Russia is in regards to theis guy. He has a bunch of friends in high places in our government.
I wonder what is REALLY up?
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posted on
10/30/2003 5:53:02 PM PST
by
JSteff
To: Norse
One really must wonder why Mr. Perle is so upset about a foreign country arresting one of their own citizens who is a corrupt businessman....I thought Mr. Perle's forte was defense....what could this be about?
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posted on
10/30/2003 5:53:43 PM PST
by
clockwork
To: Brian S
Just change the name to G7.5 :)
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posted on
10/30/2003 5:55:02 PM PST
by
ChadGore
(Kakkate Koi!)
To: JSteff; marron; aristeides
Wasn't Perle on the payroll of Worldcom or the Singapore company that wanted to buy its assets? Maybe he's on board with some Russian oil interests too.
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posted on
10/30/2003 5:55:16 PM PST
by
Shermy
To: Brian S
Totalitarian behavior on the part of Putin's Russia?
The treatment of Yukos CEO Mikhail Khodorkovsky might have come from Chapter one of Solzhenitszyn's "Gulag" which begins with the words: "How does one get to this clandestine archipelago?" and contiues a few sentences later ... "Those who go there, like you and me, dear reader, go there to die, most get there solely and compulsorily via arrest."
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posted on
10/30/2003 6:02:03 PM PST
by
thinktwice
("A dictatorship is a country that does not recognize individual rights ." Russian escapee Ayn Rand)
To: Brian S
"Russia should be excluded from the G-8. No [other] G-8 country is allowed to treat its leading businessmen the way Russia treated Khodorkovsky,"
Uh, ever heard of a company called Enron?
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posted on
10/30/2003 6:10:22 PM PST
by
navyblue
To: Brian S
We should start treating all the crooks in business and wall street and government just exactly the way Yukos lost his pants.
I'm still waiting for the Beltway Bastards to finally realize that all of the greed corruption and boom of the nineties can be attributed to the fact that the POTUS was a low life sociopath...and Wall Street loved him...anything goes...anything blows.
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posted on
10/30/2003 6:13:07 PM PST
by
harrowup
(So perfect I'm naturally humble)
To: Brian S
I think Perle was just looking for an excuse to pick a fight with Russia. I think he goes beyond "neo-con," he's out there deliberately trying to pick fights, instead of doing the whole "go to war for great justice" thing at a reasonable pace.
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posted on
10/30/2003 6:26:24 PM PST
by
xm177e2
(Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
To: Brian S
Perle is sticking up for this shyster, swindler oligarch Khodorkovsky? How transparent is this?
To: xm177e2
I also think he goes beyond "neo-con", probably on the fringes of outer space. The neo-cons are so outrageous in some of their positions, it is getting obvious that they have an agenda all their own.
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posted on
10/30/2003 6:39:10 PM PST
by
meenie
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posted on
10/30/2003 7:14:30 PM PST
by
Bob J
(www.freerepublic.net www.radiofreerepublic.com...check them out!)
To: BushMeister
You GOT it!
Perle is overplaying his hand.
To: seamole
I do see Russia's point here.
You have a state run oil industry. You hand it over, lock stock and barrel to people like this guy, and it is basically a money making machine. The Russians wanted russians to own the company, employ russians, and grow the russian economy.
Then these guys turn around, sell off the assets that they were basically given for free, and screw the country.
I don't think that Russia would be bitching about a computer guy who developed a new software program on his own, selling his company off. This is different.
Richard Perle most likely has friends who are profiting in the millions of this rape of the Russian economy. I would bet when all facts come in to place, the billions that this guy earned from selling off these industries are actually a pittance compared to their actual worth.
Since he paid squat to get where he is, he is still a billionaire. The american companies are getting a bargain, and mother russia is screwed.
Perle should just keep his yap shut and not try to restart the cold war. His friends should just be thankful for the goodies they grabbed, and keep their heads down low and not be boastful about it.
It should be a crime to do what these new oil billionaires have done. If they want to sell stock, on the common market, that is fine and dandy, but it appears that much of this was insider trading, cronyism, greasing of palms in Washington and Moscow, and the Russian government has had enough.
Perle should be fired from the Defense Policy Board for his comments. Trying to restart the cold war is grounds enough for his removal.
To: Brian S
"Russia should be excluded from the G-8. No [other] G-8 country is allowed to treat its leading businessmen the way Russia treated Khodorkovsky," Perle was quoted as saying in Russian translation in the Thursday issue of Kommersant. "I believe Russia is moving fast in the wrong direction."Two thing...first Perle must either be ignorant or dispise America over treatment of Kenneth Lay and rest of guys of Enron, Worldcom, Tyco and FREE MARTHA STEWART! Political prisoner of anti business American government....oh, oops, that only reserved for Russian crooks.
Second this from Moscow Times which is mouth piece of Oligarchs...no one know where original capital for Moscow Times come from but Bere and Khodi both bail it out before.
To: JSteff
What is up is he plan to illegally sell controlling stock of Yukos to Exxon and Shevron...and those peoples of much political might in US. Bere also grease palm of Wall Street Urinal and they all but become fluffer for him while spineless Brits hide him and Abramovich from Justice...same spineless Brits who arrest great man like Pinoche. West is disgusting in double standard and own communism.
To: dogbyte12
You are very right, you know difference between real business man and these robber baron? Easy difference...real businessman he take nothing and make something with value...these prick they take something of value and make nothing of it but put cash in pocket later. None there create anything or improve life of workers...unless you count media of foreign nations, they they give much money to.
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