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Sobran: My Obsession with Jews [for all who mistakenly think he is a valuable contributor]
Federal Observer ^
| maybe 10/30/03
| Joe Sobran
Posted on 10/30/2003 8:04:40 AM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
Edited on 10/30/2003 9:21:43 AM PST by Lead Moderator.
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Frequently of FR we will see articles written by Mr. Sobran, and see them held forth as some distillation of deep thought by those "true conservatives" of the paleocon right. In those threads, there will inevitably be some comment about Mr. Sobran's biases, but we are always assured that those don't really exist, and that his is a valid worldview, borne of hardy thought and reflection, and that by turning our backs on paleoconservatism, we do a disservice to the cause.
I found this little gem when lurking about on LF, and found this article sourced at a site I classify as appealing to neonazis.
I have long formed my opinion of Mr. Sobran and the doctrines he espouses, this merely confirmed them.
I invite others to read this and form their own opinions.
To: Theodore R.
Your hero speaks from the heart.
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posted on
10/30/2003 8:05:07 AM PST
by
Chancellor Palpatine
(Dr. Hasslein was the only human character who had any sense in the "Apes" series)
To: Catspaw; Poohbah; hchutch; Long Cut; ArneFufkin; habs4ever
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posted on
10/30/2003 8:05:57 AM PST
by
Chancellor Palpatine
(Dr. Hasslein was the only human character who had any sense in the "Apes" series)
To: Chancellor Palpatine
Something is funny abt this article. The Sobran site has a similarly named article called Obsessions about Israel, but the body of the article is completely different.
The neonazi website links not to a Sobran column, but to a newsgroup which posted the article without a link. If this article is real why did not the neonazi website link to a newspaper where this alleged Sobran article was published?
To: Chancellor Palpatine
Hey, listen now! Sobran isn't alone. There are millions who agree with him....
Be Seeing You,
Chris
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posted on
10/30/2003 8:15:25 AM PST
by
section9
(Major Kusanagi says, "Click on my pic and read my blog, or eat lead!")
To: Chancellor Palpatine
Help me out here: the difference between Sobran and Indonesian PM Mahathir is what?
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posted on
10/30/2003 8:16:27 AM PST
by
Catspaw
To: Dialup Llama; Chancellor Palpatine; SJackson; Poohbah
I really don't know, but Sobran's hung out with Holocaust deniers (the Institute for Historical Review).
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posted on
10/30/2003 8:17:01 AM PST
by
hchutch
("I don't see what the big deal is, I really don't." - Major Vic Deakins, USAF (ret.))
To: section9
LOL! Excellent post.
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posted on
10/30/2003 8:17:24 AM PST
by
hchutch
("I don't see what the big deal is, I really don't." - Major Vic Deakins, USAF (ret.))
To: Chancellor Palpatine
I would like to hear more about Sobran's understanding of "the oversimplified myths of the Holocaust and Zionism" that I apparently subscribe to.
I agree that criticism of Israel should not be dismissed as anti-semitic but clearly some of this article goes further than that.
Very interesting. Good post.
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posted on
10/30/2003 8:18:34 AM PST
by
wesdale
To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
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posted on
10/30/2003 8:18:46 AM PST
by
SJackson
To: Chancellor Palpatine
You'd think Sobran would have been pleased with our involvement in Lebanon, we saved Arafat's ass.
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posted on
10/30/2003 8:19:58 AM PST
by
SJackson
To: Dialup Llama
Sadly, Sobran has been flirting with this stuff for all too long.
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posted on
10/30/2003 8:20:33 AM PST
by
Chancellor Palpatine
(Dr. Hasslein was the only human character who had any sense in the "Apes" series)
To: hchutch
>I really don't know, but Sobran's hung out with Holocaust deniers (the Institute for Historical Review).
Just post a link to a newspaper or magazine which published this article originally. The website merely posts a link to another newsgroup in which the poster claimed to have received the column in an email. This leads me to belive the article is an internet forgery.
To: Dialup Llama
You are making the claim it's a forgery. Prove that it is.
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posted on
10/30/2003 8:23:14 AM PST
by
hchutch
("I don't see what the big deal is, I really don't." - Major Vic Deakins, USAF (ret.))
To: Chancellor Palpatine
While I have no doubt Sobran might have written this, he didn't write it as recently as
September 2003. He is an anti-Semite, but I hate to see Internet hoaxes get spread.
For something that Sobran takes credit for, read "For Fear of the Jews". It's the same sort of frightening stuff.
To: Chancellor Palpatine; Dialup Llama
I see where the source of the article is questioned. It would be nice to find out that it's not his.
I consider myself more or less of a libertarian, yet why wouldn't it surprise me if the Libertarians jump on the Palestinian bandwagon, along with the Left?
Some of these people are just assclowns.
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posted on
10/30/2003 8:23:33 AM PST
by
Sam Cree
(Democrats are herd animals)
To: Catspaw
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posted on
10/30/2003 8:23:51 AM PST
by
Helms
(Liberals have a Mental Defect which does not permit an accurate perception of Reality)
To: AmishDude
Sorry. That "as recently as" is a little confusing. What I mean is, if Sobran wrote it, he did so in the last month.
To: wesdale
I would like to hear more about Sobran's understanding of "the oversimplified myths of the Holocaust and Zionism" that I apparently subscribe to. Jews use those myths to maintain control over Christians by instilling a overwhelming sense of guilt.
If it's posted at libertyforum you could wander over later when the threads developed and learn all about it.
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posted on
10/30/2003 8:25:27 AM PST
by
SJackson
To: Chancellor Palpatine
"The plague-carriers, so to speak, are the secularized, liberal, middlebrow Jews whose vulgarity sets the tone for American politics, public discourse, and popular culture. Some of them, like Steven Spielberg and Barbra Streisand, have real talent, of sorts; most of them are good at making money and aggressive in using it for their pet causes. Above all, they have a low genius for propaganda - for shaping the popular mind and its characteristic platitudes."
This paragraph is the essnce of the piece, and what we have here is a restatement of the Medieval idea of the "dirty Jew," the corrupting Jew, the Jew as a defective human, the Jew who undermines good, clean Christian values. Yes, there are many Jews who fit this profile, but there inummerably more Catholics, Protestants, and non-Jewish secularists who fit it. Sobran is re-packaging an ancient smear.
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posted on
10/30/2003 8:26:20 AM PST
by
Steve_Seattle
("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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