Wildfire Turns California Resort Into Tinderbox (San Berdoo Mountains - Lake Arrowhead)

Reuters

[Happy2BMe]

Faced with a decision between losing entire forests not replaceable for several generations or losing a the underbrush that tradiionally were burned off in controlled burns, ya think the tree huggers will change their tune about controlled burns about now?

(Not to mention the loss of life, property, and income from toursim.)

[JustAnAmerican]

"Faced with a decision between losing entire forests not replaceable for several generations or losing a the underbrush that tradiionally were burned off in controlled burns, ya think the tree huggers will change their tune about controlled burns about now?

Probably not, but then we can show them the error of their ways in the only way they understand, force :)

[volchef]

Nope, they won't. They couldn't care less about people and their homes. They want all of us to go back to the days of teepees and scarlet fever. Whether we live in pestilence and famine is of no consequence to them they just care about their beloved trees.

[Happy2BMe]

A man died fighting the fires in Julian, California yesterday. The wife and and I planned on going there to have some apple pie made from their famous apple trees.

I wonder if their apple tree orchards were burned. These orchards were famous/special because they were the only apple orchards in Southern California.

Julian is the only place apple orchards will grow in that part of the country.

[finnman69]

Lake Arrowhead pics

[Wright is right!]

"Julian is the only place apple orchards will grow in that part of the country."

If the trees were damaged or destroyed, the enterprising apple growers in Julian can transplant trees from Washington State and be right back in bidness. It'd be costly, but it would work.

There is going to be a huge cash-flow churn when the rebuilding from these fires takes hold. Very good for bidness.

Michael

[FeliciaCat]

I spent many a holiday in Lake Arrowhead as a kid. This is so sad.

[KC Burke]

My understanding is that the 250 homes were in the adjacent community on the east side of the Lake. The actual village of Lake Arrowhead may yet stand. Others, more local, might be able to provide some actually verified info.

[Rutles4Ever]

FYI. I know there is a lot of debate over this man's work, but I think this bears some creedence.

http://www.hagmannpi.com/US%20Infrastructure.htm#fires

Verified intelligence indicates that Islamic terrorists had a hand in some of the existing fires in southern California that have already engulfed over 1/2 million acres.

Saturday, 12 July 2003: PHOENIX, Arizona - The FBI alerted law enforcement agencies last month that an Al Qaeda terrorist now in detention had talked of masterminding a plot to set a series of devastating forest fires around the western United States. Fox News.

Internet Intercept 26 October 2003:

"Allah's soldiers will devastate America by its burning...this is nothing but the start of the punishment assisted by Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds....These are the new fires different from the normal as Ramadan starts."

Other truncated messages from September 2003:

Oh Allah support the fighters everywhere, and hasten your support of them Oh Allah...

Oh Allah... ignite the land a fire from below the feet of the Crusaders and cunning Zionists... _________________

The Battle of Badr and Other Operations in Ramadan !!!

30 October 2003--The In the name of Allah Most Gracious Most Merciful. My noble friend, peace, mercy and blessings of Allah be upon you. The praise of Allah in the first and the praise of Allah in the others and the praise of Allah to the Doomsday and after.

It was mentioned in a previous message that ( Alsfiani ) will drive the army of two million smiling at the separate Battle of Badr in Ramadan Allah willing.

What has actually started is a large operation beginning at the start of Ramadan against the top spies at the Red Crescent building that the invaders use as a center for the collection of the information under the guise of offering the human service.

What has taken place with Allah's support and his favor are 40 successful operations within 24 hours… and with the help of Allah we have made their land a hell of fire at the feet of the invaders.

God willing he sees what is in your heart with the blessing of this virtuous month from men that given their souls to the omnipotent and single Allah… and the news will come to you from here and there despite the beaten media secrecy from the cowards in power with a hopeful outlook !!!

They have smuggled their veteran ruler (Bremer) to Washington with the increase in hostilities and he met with Powell saying that they did not expect that the resistance would be this great!!!

You will see in the eyes of your mother soon, God willing what the true meaning of the Jihad and Mujahid and the jihad support soon !!!

Watch with disbelief and with Allah's wrath the Jihad is everywhere…the fires devour them in their own land leaving 17 casualties and the destruction of 700 houses and 2000 hectare of the forests and the fires have entered actually part of the city before an hour of now… and oh Allah Zaid and bless and show us their awesome Jihad works and ability. Amen.

[alaskanfan]

Maybe selective logging isn't such a bad idea!

[sheik yerbouty]

Ramadan fires..

[Jack Bull]

[ErnBatavia]

I spent many a holiday in Lake Arrowhead as a kid.

Up there at a rented weekend cabin was the first time I ever saw it snow (maybe 9 or 10 years old) - fascinating enough that I'll never forget it.

[jrp]

There is going to be a huge cash-flow churn when the rebuilding from these fires takes hold. Very good for bidness

Ah, the old Broken Window Fallacy.

[Happy2BMe]

Interesting - but so far the fires have not proven to have been linked to Al Qaeda. That may change, but so far non-Arabic types (two white men) have been the only suspects in any arson cases for any of the fires.

Thanks for the post though!

[kidd]

ya think the tree huggers will change their tune about controlled burns about now?

No. This fits in with their goal of creating vast areas of no-human type wildernesses. They would like to demonstrate that its too dangerous to build homes in the woods. Their "nuclear option" is going as planned.

[Happy2BMe]

"Maybe selective logging isn't such a bad idea!"

Cinders are on good for charcoal briquettes.

Not much demand for ashes.

[JustAnAmerican]

"Interesting - but so far the fires have not proven to have been linked to Al Qaeda. That may change, but so far non-Arabic types (two white men) have been the only suspects in any arson cases for any of the fires.

Always keep the VA-MD-DC sniper case in mind when dealing with local authorities/witnesses. For quite a while we were told it was two white men in a white van(Sound familiar). This even after the local police chief(Moose for brains) knew it was not the case.

[glorgau]

The Japanese sent over balloons on the jet stream during WWII. Thedifference is that news of any damage was suppressed due to war time censorship.