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BUSH HOSTED RAMADAN DINNER AAT WHITE HOUSE (Mired in controversy)
Yahoo ^ | 10/28/2003 | Staff

Posted on 10/29/2003 5:21:37 AM PST by JesseHousman

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To: Redleg Duke
Thank God GW is the president and not you!

Are you trying to hurt my feelings? (Sniffle, sniffle) :(

61 posted on 10/29/2003 6:27:00 AM PST by truthandlife
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To: NYC GOP Chick
We (and they) need more outspoken Muslims and Arabs to loudly and frequently offer unqualified condemnation of the extremists...

They're doing that now, but then it's just as easy for muslims to lie as to commit murder.

62 posted on 10/29/2003 6:27:09 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: FITZ
"Turkey and Persia had better cultures and better religions before they were conquered by the Arabs."

The Truth About Islam

Observations by Dr. David R. Reagan

 

Ever since the Attack on America on September 11, 2001, we have heard a never-ending chorus of voices from government, academia, and the media assuring us that the Islamic terrorists who attacked the Trade Towers and the Pentagon are not repre­sentative of “true Islam.” We have been likewise assured by spiritual leaders — even some Christian spokesmen — that Islam is a religion of peace, and that Muslims worship the same God as Christians and Jews.

“Our war is not against Islam,” we have been told repeatedly. “Our war is against terrorism.”

Central Questions

Well, what about it?

The Intolerant and Militant Nature of Islam

One of the most controversial issues regarding Islam concerns whether or not it is a militant religion. Muslims in the West argue it is peace-loving. Westerners who have experienced it in the Muslim world argue it is inherently in­tolerant and militant.

The Koran itself preaches intolerance toward other religions. Sura 5 contains the following command: “Take not Jews and Christians for friends . . . He among you who takes them for friends is one of them . . . Choose not for friends such of those who received the Scripture before you [Jews and Christians] . .  But keep your duty to Allah” (verses 51, 55, 57). Extreme intolerance is commanded in Sura 5:33 — “[For those who do not submit to Allah] their punishment is . . . execution or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet, from the opposite sides, or exile from the land.”

The Koran also expresses an intolerant attitude toward any person who decides to reject the Islamic faith or convert to another religion. Such persons are to be executed (Sura 9:12). In the Hadith (the oral tradition of Muhammad’s sayings) it says “Whoever changes his religion, kill him” (Hadith 9:57). These commands are practiced in all Islamic Fundamentalist countries today.

With regard to militancy, the Koran not only condones it, it commands it:

Fighting is prescribed for you, and [some of] you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and that you love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows, and you know not (Sura 2:16).

Fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war (Sura 9:5).

Fight in the way of Allah . . . and slay them [the unbelievers] wherever you find them and drive them out . . . and fight them until . . . religion is for Allah (Sura 2:190-193).

Muhammad is quoted in the Hadith as saying, “The sword is the key of heaven and hell. A drop of blood in the cause of Allah — a night spent in arms [war] — is of more avail than two months of fasting and prayer. Whosoever falls in battle, his sins are forgiven, and at the day of judgment, his limbs shall be supplied by the wings of angels and cherubim.”12

The Imperialistic Nature of Islam

From its inception, Islam has been committed to what it calls jihad — a word mean­ing holy war. The duty of Muslims is to subjugate or destroy “infidels” — the term the Koran uses for all non-believers.

In the Muslim viewpoint, the world is divided into two regions — those areas controlled by Islam, called Dar al-Islam (meaning the House of Islam) and those called Dar al-Harb (the House of War). The Koran commands Mus­lims to fight non-Muslims until they exterminate all other religions, leaving Islam as the one and only religion in the world (Suras 2:193 and 8:39). Muhammad is quoted in the Hadith as saying, “I have been ordered to fight with the people until they say, none has the right to be worshiped but Allah” (Hadith 4:196).

Regarding terror, Allah orders Muslims to terrorize non-Muslims on his behalf: “Strike terror (into the hearts of ) the enemies of Allah and your enemies” (Sura 8:60). Allah then assures his followers that he will assist them: “I will instill terror into the hearts of unbelievers. Smite them above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them. It is not you who slay them, it is Allah” (Sura 8:12, 17).

Concerning jihad,14 the Koran guarantees Paradise to those who fight for Allah (Sura 4:74). It promises instant Paradise for those who die in battle (Suras 9:111 and 47:5-6). Dying for Allah is presented as better than living: “And if you are killed or die in the Way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all that others may amass [of worldly wealth]” (Sura 3:157).

Martyrs are promised a sensual and luxurious life in Paradise (Sura 52:17-22). According to Al-Ghazzali, one of Islam’s greatest teachers, when a martyr reaches Paradise, he “will marry 500 companions, 4,000 virgins, and 8,000 divorced women.”15 Commenting on this statement, Randall Price, biblical teacher and Middle East expert, observed that the Islamic Paradise is “just the kind of place that adolescent, unmarried men, isolated through their lives from the opposite sex by rigid cultural standards, would die for.”16

Fundamentalist Goals

The Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran was the modern day Islamic spokesman who revived Muhammad’s vision of world con­quest. He taught that the re-establishment of Israel was a Satanic miracle allowed by Allah because of the lukewarmness of the Muslim masses. He called for a renewal of true Islam to accomplish three purposes:19

  1. To overthrow the “secular” rulers of Islamic countries (like Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, and Egypt), just as he had done in Iran.

  2. To take back the land of Palestine for Allah, exterminating Israel in the process.

  3. To conquer the rest of the world for Allah.

Notice the first priority was the transformation of secular Islamic countries into religious states ruled by the Koran. Then would come Israel and the world.

In a proclamation made by Osama bin Laden in 1998, he listed the same goals and prioritized them in the same order.20 He then identified the United States as the prime obstacle to the achievement of these goals. Accordingly, he called on Muslims everywhere “to comply with Allah’s order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it.”

It is important to note that the eradication of Israel is not the top priority. Nor is Israel viewed as the major obstacle to world conquest. I emphasize this because many Americans are saying that the key to winning the war against terrorism is to dump Israel. More and more, on radio talk shows, I hear people saying, “Let’s cut Israel loose. Let the Arabs have it. Then they will leave us alone.”

That is utter nonsense. Israel is not the cause of Islamic terrorism toward the West. If Israel were to disappear tomorrow, Fundamentalist Islam would still be determined to destroy America as part of its plan to take the world for Allah. And if we were to abandon Israel, the Muslim world would interpret it as an act of cowardice, proving our word is meaningless and that we truly are, as they say, “a depraved society devoid of values.” Our abandonment of Israel would only whet their appetite. Islamic Fundamentalism cannot be appeased. It must be de­feated.

63 posted on 10/29/2003 6:27:27 AM PST by Happy2BMe (Nurture terrorism in a neighborhood near you - donate to your local community mosque.)
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To: seamole
"we honor, and welcome and value the Muslim faith
Does the above deny that America is a Christian country?"

Correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that Islam was not part of the Christian faith.
64 posted on 10/29/2003 6:27:31 AM PST by Kerberos (Socialism, it's not just a liberal thang anymore.)
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To: Semper Paratus
Should have had a Ramadan luncheon instead...

And served roast pork mit sauerkraut!

65 posted on 10/29/2003 6:29:06 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: JesseHousman
What a fetid pantload.
67 posted on 10/29/2003 6:30:12 AM PST by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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To: JesseHousman
"A legitimate and conservative 3rd party would syphon votes and forever dilute the power of these two parties."

Oh... really? So the Green Party siphons votes from both the Democrat and Republican parties? The Constitutionalist Party siphons votes from both parties?

BS. A "legitimate and conservative" 3rd party would siphon votes and forever dilute the power of ONE party, the Republican Party. The Democrat Pary would only be empowered.

LOOK AT WHAT A CONSERVATIVE SPLIT DID TO CANADA!

Qwinn

68 posted on 10/29/2003 6:31:06 AM PST by Qwinn
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To: JesseHousman
Was Danny and Harry there? I despise pandering I thought the scum bag clintoon was the champ at that, Bush better watch his 6 he these people would stab him in the back in heart beat.
69 posted on 10/29/2003 6:32:48 AM PST by boomop1
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To: Happy2BMe
I don't think someone can look around and observe what the muslims have done to India, Nigeria, Sudan, the entire Middle East, Indonesia and think they'll make any exceptions for us. They despise the Constitution because it is contrary to everything they believe. To them there is one way --- submission to them and Sharia law.
70 posted on 10/29/2003 6:33:09 AM PST by FITZ
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To: JustAnAmerican
His conservative base is quite solidly behind him.
71 posted on 10/29/2003 6:34:34 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: Happy2BMe
Wow! Those two muslims in the first photo in your group really don't look like very happy campers!! Especially the one in the A-rab head-gear. I wonder what he was thinking right then?

g

72 posted on 10/29/2003 6:35:51 AM PST by Geezerette (... but young at heart!-)
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To: SquirrelKing
Hosed would be much preferred.

Cheers, SK
73 posted on 10/29/2003 6:36:05 AM PST by lodwick (Wake up, America!)
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To: Happy2BMe
Great post.
74 posted on 10/29/2003 6:38:38 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Correct me if I am wrong .. but the WH does a prayer breakfast .. they do a lighting of the menorah for Chanukkah .. they do a lighting of the christmas tree .. plus other events ??

76 posted on 10/29/2003 6:40:45 AM PST by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: Geezerette
I've never seen a happy looking Muslim though --- never once. I think being happy isn't allowed ---- it would look like they were trying to have some kind of freedom and under the Koran there is none.
77 posted on 10/29/2003 6:41:24 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Geezerette
As Rush would say, he's not fighting to win; he's fighting not to lose.
78 posted on 10/29/2003 6:41:34 AM PST by GunsareOK
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To: JustAnAmerican
>> I guess your Military coup to oust elected officials when they became too radical, was really to overthrow non-Turks?

The coups all happened when the government was no longer able to control the streets where cold war induced USSR funded terror was taking around 30 lives a day..

Your facts are wrong.
79 posted on 10/29/2003 6:42:02 AM PST by a_Turk (Nothing's good that uses bad...)
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To: a_Turk
Bush is a good man.

Too bad all muslims don't feel as you, Mr. Turk.

His personal life is beyond reproach, but he is inviting the wrong people to dinner.

Hopefully scrambled pork brains were served.

80 posted on 10/29/2003 6:43:45 AM PST by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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