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Who's guarding our military equipment? - Michelle Malkin
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| 10/29/03
| Michelle Malkin
Posted on 10/28/2003 9:45:19 PM PST by kattracks
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To: sheik yerbouty
Avenger ADA System
![](http://147.71.210.21/adamag/brochures/avenger.jpg)
Were these what you saw?
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posted on
10/30/2003 12:29:21 PM PST
by
TADSLOS
(Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
To: TADSLOS
They had one of those on static display at Road Atlanta 10/2002. We got to play with the thermal sight a little, I have a pic of my son holding the trainer manpac Stinger the soldiers had with them (or were they Marines, can't remember, crs strikes).
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posted on
10/30/2003 12:33:00 PM PST
by
FreedomPoster
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To: kattracks
Here's an even scarier scenario. We have thousands of pieces of military equipment being shipped by rail every day from military installations to port or other training areas and return. I passed hundred of trucks, tanks, artillery pieces, etc... loaded on open flatcars this morning on my drive to work. The rail companies provide some security at overnight stops, but these shipments are largely left to themselves. It is common practice to budget loss and damage costs due to theft and vandalism during these rail moves.
We find bullet holes in windshields, gas tanks, side panels and doors all the time. All this takes time and money to repair, which detracts from operational readiness and training. It wouldn't take much to systematically de-rail trains or create havoc with our logistics and transportation systems.
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10/30/2003 12:44:29 PM PST
by
TADSLOS
(Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
To: TADSLOS
It wouldn't take much to systematically de-rail trains or create havoc with our logistics and transportation systems.Unfortunately, you've now defined a mission that is impossible to perform: securing every inch of the rail network.
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posted on
10/30/2003 12:46:58 PM PST
by
Poohbah
("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
To: FreedomPoster
Nice little go anywhere system. We routinely use their services to train our AH-64 crews on employing their ASE and transponders while the ADA crews get a workout tracking and interrogating the aircraft.
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posted on
10/30/2003 12:47:50 PM PST
by
TADSLOS
(Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
To: TADSLOS
Makes sense. I found the picture, here's a link, didn't direct-link in deference to the bandwidth-deprived:
http://images4.fotki.com/v43/photos/7/77755/345674/DSCN1068-vi.jpg You can see the thermal sight pulled out remote from the Humvee, below the trainer Stinger my son is holding. It was fun tracking some of the camera helicopters that were cruising around for the race, using the sight.
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posted on
10/30/2003 1:29:36 PM PST
by
FreedomPoster
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To: Poohbah; TADSLOS
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10/30/2003 1:31:33 PM PST
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FreedomPoster
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To: Poohbah
And a follow up comment - you don't need to cover every inch, though that would be nice. Just cover enough that you're regularly catching any inappropriate interlopers. Of course, there smart thing to do would be to lock down the borders, first, but I don't see that happening.
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10/30/2003 1:33:27 PM PST
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FreedomPoster
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To: FreedomPoster
And a follow up comment - you don't need to cover every inch, though that would be nice. Just cover enough that you're regularly catching any inappropriate interlopers.In other words, every inch.
Because otherwise, the inappropriate interlopers will simply hit the rail line where it isn't being guarded.
Of course, there smart thing to do would be to lock down the borders, first, but I don't see that happening.
I've already figured out the manpower requirements for securing our borders and coastline: it isn't pretty.
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posted on
10/30/2003 1:43:48 PM PST
by
Poohbah
("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
To: TADSLOS
No, the vehicle it was ob was somewhat larger.
To: Poohbah
No, not every inch. I'm not proposing obvious guard towers. And no, there would be no 100% certainty. But there would be an innoculating effect that could be sufficient.
On borders, if there were any national will to do it, we'd announce we are going to start shooting illegal crossers, then shoot a few. Illegal crossings would drop to a trickle, once the news got out. From that point forward, it would be much easier to spot a few, when the system isn't overloaded with a flood.
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10/30/2003 2:21:43 PM PST
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FreedomPoster
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To: sheik yerbouty
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10/30/2003 2:24:19 PM PST
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FreedomPoster
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To: FreedomPoster
But there would be an innoculating effect that could be sufficient.Nope. It would be ridiculously easy to determine which sections are guarded and which sections are unguarded, and to attack the unguarded sections.
On borders, if there were any national will to do it, we'd announce we are going to start shooting illegal crossers, then shoot a few.
Uh-huh. And when the networks show video of little Juan screaming and bawling over the body of his mother, that policy will die an instant death.
You'd have to shoot most of your fellow citizens to implement that policy and keep it in place.
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posted on
10/30/2003 2:28:21 PM PST
by
Poohbah
("Would you mind not shooting at the thermonuclear weapons?" -- Major Vic Deakins, USAF)
To: FreedomPoster
No, it looked like one of those scud launchers. I didn't look at it in detail, I just thought the security was lacking.
To: kattracks
I like how they point out that the Paladin (M109) can launch Nerve gas and Nuclear rounds. Like any terr who somehow manages to walk off with a tank the size of a house is also going to manage to gain access to (what is probably) the one high-security munitions storage facility where we keep the 10-15 gas rounds and the 5 nuke shells left over from the 60s.
Nothing like adding needless concerns to hype your point. Having said that, I still respect Michelle for her opinions.
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