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President Bush's Message to the Grassroots: "I Need You"
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| 10/28/03
| President George W. Bush
Posted on 10/28/2003 1:09:13 PM PST by Marcus Alonzo Hanna
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To: BlueString
Huh?
Voted for Reagan twice - adore the
man.
Am Phil Gramm's biggest fan - in
the world I dare say.
Was too young to vote Goldwater in
'64, but argued on his behalf with
EVERYONE 'til they got sick of me.
Remember Sen. John Tower? A life-
long political HERO of mine.
Carried Dan Quayle's colors FOR
YEARS after he was toast.
???
Huh
To: Mudboy Slim
All in all, I don't disagree...I reckon I would just like to see Dubyuh be a little more ideological in his pursuit of a smaller Federal presence in out lives, and not let his worthy endeavors overseas preclude domestic policy gains that I believe would energize the economy AND the conservative base.If he energizes the conservative base at the expense of all other would be supporters what will he have gained? Would we have tax cuts, a foreign policy equal to the threat, PBA ban, etc.? There are realities in politics, the candidates I would guess you would call most philosophically worthy, aren't electable.
Governing requires compromise, particularly when one is protecting the polical viability of their chief priorities. My impression of Bush isn't that he has abandoned anyone but rather he has picked his battles as he can be most effective in leading the country during a recession and post September 11 world. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that had Bush governed in lock step with the conservative base, he wouldn't have any chance in 2004.
Don't get me wrong, he has done some things I disagree with and not touched some issues I had counted on. But, as of now, I believe he has been wise to protect these issues for more politically viable moments.
522
posted on
10/29/2003 2:59:36 PM PST
by
Dolphy
To: Marcus Alonzo Hanna
Read later.
To: Luis Gonzalez
>>> It's easy to hold on to "principles" when they are never tested in the real world or national and international politics. <<<
I would say its a lot easier to compromise your principles and go with the what's popular then to stand alone on your convictions and actually test your principles in the real world. As to a candidate... Im waiting to see who the AFP will put out. Then I will have your answer.
To: Valentine_W
ideas that they always promoted are too radical for even the general population to acceptAs of right now this is true. What worries me is that the general population is changing.
Let's just hope the rats keep shooting themselves in the foot.
To: jmc813
McClintock would be governor-elect right There may be a comparison to make between the re-call and the 2004 election. I think it was a good thing that McClintock stayed in the race to the end even though his chances were slim. I believe that he kept Arnold from drifting to the left in fear of losing votes to McClintock. The results were great. Now if someone was to run in the primary to the right of GWB, this might pull him back to the right in fear of splitting the party.
I guess most republicans don't want to "darken the door of the White House".
To: Luis Gonzalez
No, actually I am not. I always thought that the Alien and Seditions acts were the one mistake in John Adam's political career. I do not believe that immigration laws will ever be more strictly or severe, than the Alien and Sedition Acts.
To: Missouri
"Let's just hope the rats keep shooting themselves in the foot."If liberals and so-called "progressives" keep repackaging the same old ideas, they will continue to lose ground in the battle of ideas. I believe that the survival of any nation depends on the battle of ideas, and which ideology prevails the longest in this imperative battle. Right now, conservative think-tanks take the cake; no liberal think-tank even comes close in influence and power than conservative think-tanks such as Heritage and American Enterprise. Cato has also been very influential and continues to be so.
To: Isolationist
The America First Party?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
You mean old Charlie "Hitler Cross" Lindbergh's party?!?!?!?
Here!
Vote for me!!!
I promise never to allow another foreigner across the border.
I promise never to allow anything made in a foreign country to enter our countyr.
I'll outlaw liberalism and throw all Democrats out of the country.
AND NO MORE JEWS EVER!!!!
The preceding political announcement was brought to you by the America First Party...please send me your donations.
Yeah...making all sorts of crazy promises for crazy people, promises that they will never have to keep because theree's zero chance of actually being elected to anything.
Here's a similar concept...
It's easy to remain a virgin if you grow up alone in a deserted island.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
529
posted on
10/29/2003 4:53:07 PM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(Those who think they know, really piss off those of us who truly do.)
To: Valentine_W
The Alien and Sedition Acts relate to crimes against the nation by an alien, or a group of aliens.
I'll read it again, but I don't recall it being about immigration, but rather about what could be done about immigrants that were deemed dangerous to the nation.
530
posted on
10/29/2003 4:54:45 PM PST
by
Luis Gonzalez
(Those who think they know, really piss off those of us who truly do.)
To: Luis Gonzalez
"Perhaps Mud, you should judge his tenure by taking stock of how he followed through on his campaign promises, taking into considerations the unexpected events in the past two years, instead of promoting disenchantment because he failed to hold up to your expectations." I'm not "promoting disenchantment", I'm pointing out where he can do better...on the other hand, excuse me for getting the feeling that you and others are "promoting enchantment" for domestic policies that should be anathema for anyone who seriously considers themselves a genuine conservative. You may fool some of the groupthink denizens who presently hold sway over this Web Forum, but that doesn't change the fact that Dubyuh and the GOP-controlled Congress have increased domestic discretionary spending at a greater rate than Clinton and his DemonRAT-controlled Congress back in '92-'95. By any measure, that is indefensible for a conservative, imho.
FReegards...MUD
531
posted on
10/29/2003 4:54:47 PM PST
by
Mudboy Slim
(RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
To: Luis Gonzalez
The Alien and Sedition Acts did greatly affect immigration law within the United States. The first act, the Naturalization Act, required aliens to be residents for 14 years before they could even be
eligible to apply for US citizenship. The second part, the Alien Friends Act authorized the President to deport any alien/immigrant construed to be dangerous to the US without requiring a trial of any sorts. The third part of the law, the Alien Enemies Act, authorized for the deportation, arrest, or detention, of any alien/immigrant "subject to an enemy" power.
There can be no question that the Alien and Sedition Acts stifled immigration into the US and that it stripped the Constitutional rights of both immigrants and citizens alike. Strict immigration laws are nothing new in the US and the immigration laws we see now are a lot more relaxed than the Alien Acts of 1798.
Likewise, the USA Patriot Act has adopted a portion of the Alien Acts (the Alien Enemies Act) into modern American law. Still, I disagree with your conlcusion that immigration laws are stricter now than they have ever been. Anti-immigrant sentiment was much stronger during the time of the Alien and Sedition Acts and was reflected in the passing of this law by Congress.
To: All
533
posted on
10/29/2003 5:27:13 PM PST
by
Bob J
(www.freerepublic.net www.radiofreerepublic.com...check them out!)
To: Luis Gonzalez
"The Alien and Sedition Acts relate to crimes against the nation by an alien, or a group of aliens."Also, I disagree with this part of your statement. In being charged with a crime, the process of a fair trial begins. The Alien Acts did not afford immigration the right of a fair trial. Suspicion alone was reason enough for the deportation of a non-citizen, due to the Alien and Sedition Acts.
To: Valentine_W
I meant "immigrant".
To: Luis Gonzalez
Also, you might want to look into the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882.
To: Valentine_W
Or the The National Origins Act of 1929.
To: Consort
Yep, ya sure got me there. All I have on my side is the Constitution and the Republic that the Founding Dads handed us. You, on the other hand, have another spend and spend big gubmint pubbie politician who wants another four years to continue to plunder this country and move it farther left while you cheer him on. I shoulda known. I mean, you got the WHOLE thing. Why is it, then, that I am the only one (of the two of us) who actually has something to STAND for... and all you got is another dime-a-dozen career politician?
538
posted on
10/29/2003 6:19:01 PM PST
by
dcwusmc
("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.")
To: BlueString
"...my point is bigger - there's no evidence that Reagan was a cut, cut, cut, tight-fisted governor or President. I know he vetoed a lot & railed a lot, but his budgets still allowed government to grow, not shrink. His budgets, not the Dems. And, he didn't propose rolling back a bunch of the welfare state, like most conservatives wanted." Please recheck that graph in #516...it indicates otherwise.
FReegards...MUD
539
posted on
10/29/2003 6:23:16 PM PST
by
Mudboy Slim
(RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
To: txrangerette
Ooops...this was meant fer you...
"...my point is bigger - there's no evidence that Reagan was a cut, cut, cut, tight-fisted governor or President. I know he vetoed a lot & railed a lot, but his budgets still allowed government to grow, not shrink. His budgets, not the Dems. And, he didn't propose rolling back a bunch of the welfare state, like most conservatives wanted."
Please recheck that graph in #516...it indicates otherwise.
FReegards...MUD
540
posted on
10/29/2003 6:24:14 PM PST
by
Mudboy Slim
(RE-IMPEACH Osama bil Clinton!!)
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