KABA asking for cash - AGAIN

Haas' Guide to Small Arms Ammunition ^ | 10/27/2003 | Mike Haas

[Shooter 2.5]

More thirty year old crap and you're refusing to work with the NRA. I guess that proves I was correct.

Where the hell were you a couple of days ago when we were writing those letters, making phone calls and working to get the Wisconsin Senate to pass the CCW Bill?

Too busy worrying about what happened thirty years ago?


Go back to your own website and use your own bandwidth.

[KeepAndBearArms]

Shooter 2.5 says:

"Where the hell were you a couple of days ago when we were writing those letters, making phone calls and working to get the Wisconsin Senate to pass the CCW Bill?"

A CCW bill is not about the Second Amendment. You fight for permits and the licensing of rights. We'll fight for a real Second Amendment right that cannot be licensed or turned into a revocable government privilege. What NRA calls "right to carry" laws are not about rights. They are about paying government fees just to be able to avoid arrest and prosecution. We intend to get rid of "permit" systems. Surely you, and NRA shills aplenty, will be on the wrong side of that fight, too.

BTW, would you fight for the privilege of getting a "permit/license" to be able to go to church, too? 

Angel Shamaya
KeepAndBearArms.com

[CHICAGOFARMER]

To Shooter 2.5

I for the sake of the fight to keep and bear arms was never said in a court of law.

I too son of the American Revolution can have my guns when they are empty.

Chicagofarmer

Below actual court testimony in DC court.



THE COURT: THE GOVERNMENT CAN PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS.

MR. HALBROOK: YOUR HONOR, WE ARE HERE WANTING TO REGISTER HANDGUNS. WE ARE NOT HERE WANTING UNRESTRICTED ACCESS. WE'RE NOT HERE ASKING TO CARRY THEM, OTHER THAN IN THE HOME.


THE COURT: YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE GOVERNMENT CAN IMPOSE REASONABLE RESTRICTIONS?

MR. HALBROOK: YES, YOUR HONOR. YES, YOUR HONOR.


http://KeepAndBearArms.com/Silveira/Halbrook.asp

for the full transcript, with annotations


Here is the transcript the NRA attorney telling the Judge that registration is OK.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1002273/posts




Here more stuff.

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/information/XcIBViewItem.asp?ID=3618

[CHICAGOFARMER]

Well, the reason I asked is because if any gun-rights organization were successful, it would have rolled back the 1934 gun control fiasco a long time ago and we wouldn't have all this worry today

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what you say makes sense if you have never read the detailed history from the miller case forward. The best write up anywhere on how we got where we are today is Mr. Roy Lucus write up.

I have read the 94 USSC cases put forth by the NRA and tons of other 2nd stuff. I do know this, cival rights, gay rights have gained huge presents in the world today and they do not even have a 2nd amendment. What has the NRA been doing. I think a 150 million dollar a year organization and negotiating to the middle of the road on a bill of rights issue like freedom of speach. Does not make sense unless the NRA is in bed with the politicans.


Take a look at my post 23 and read Mr. Lucus. His credentials are hug. If he is right and he appears to have the best vision of the courts someone has been sleeping at the switch.

[Shooter 2.5]

Tell that to the people who live in Alaska. They wouldn't have had Unresticted without a Shall Issue first.

[Shooter 2.5]

Read Halbrook's response in the article.

[CHICAGOFARMER]

TO Shooter 2.5


BTW, would you fight for the privilege of getting a "permit/license" to be able to go to church, too?

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What say you to this question???


Chicagofarmer

[CHICAGOFARMER]

TO:

Mike Haas
NRA Benefactor Member
CA NRA volunteer


What say you to the response by the director of KABA to your rant?


We at Free Republic are waiting for your response?


Chicagofarmer

[Mini-14]

I am heading over to the web site at http://www.keepandbeararms.com to make another little donation. You have an excellent web site and a great case in Silveira v. Lockyer.

[Mini-14]

Your posting appears to be nothing more than an advertisement to sell your own ammunition.

[Mini-14]

I just donated $20.00 to get a raffle ticket for the Wilson rifle at www.keepandbeararms.com.

Then, I went over to the Haas' Guide to Small Arms Ammunition and spent $0.00.

[CHICAGOFARMER]

KABA asking for cash - AGAIN

Haas' Guide to Small Arms Ammunition ^ | 10/27/2003 | Mike Haas

Posted on 10/27/2003 10:50 AM CST by Mike Haas

Mike Haas
NRA Benefactor Member
CA NRA volunteer


Mr Mike Haas has posted his thread over 6 hours and has not responded to a single poster. In the person who he has attacked has responded twice with informantion and Mike has failed to repond. I understand if Mr. Haas is working and will look forward to his response this evening.

WHERE ARE YOU MR. HAAS.

CAN YOU COME OUT AND OPINE WITH FACTS?

Reader

[CHICAGOFARMER]

I just donated $20.00 to get a raffle ticket for the Wilson rifle at www.keepandbeararms.com.
Then, I went over to the Haas' Guide to Small Arms Ammunition and spent $0.00.


thank you for your donation to the cause.

Chicagofarmer

[MileHi]

Bump for later follow up.

[Atlas Sneezed]

As it happens, Freeper Mike Haas has been registered here for 5 months. I see no evidence that he has ever posted anything other than an initial post on this and closely related topics, nor has he ever commented to his own or anyone else's thread.

While the issues are indeed topical and interesting, his style is that of a hit-and-run. (A "FINO"?)

I am glad that the NRA has critics that keep it from being even more of a wishy-washy compromiser of our rights than it already is.

And I am delighted that there are leaders in California who have taken action against the legal tyranny there, even if it makes Mike and his club look a little irrelevant.

[Shooter 2.5]

Alaska now has Unrestricted because a couple of years ago, they enacted a Shall Issue Law. Had they tried to enact a Unrestricted Law first, it would never have happened.

[CHICAGOFARMER]

Alaska now has Unrestricted because a couple of years ago, they enacted a Shall Issue Law. Had they tried to enact a Unrestricted Law first, it would never have happened.


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For Alaska a good small step.


Have you viewed Innocent betrayal by Aaron Zelman yet? Powerful

[CHICAGOFARMER]

I am glad that the NRA has critics that keep it from being even more of a wishy-washy compromiser of our rights than it already is.


Thanks for the observation Beezzebubba

chicagofarmer

[CHICAGOFARMER]

Beezzebubba

Do you smell something?

These this post smell??

[CHICAGOFARMER]

Here is Mikes email should you like to contact him and ask oh where is MIKE.


mike@muzzleenergy.com