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DEFAMATION -- LIBEL AND SLANDER [Florida Law - FReepers Heed]
Florida Bar Association ^

Posted on 10/24/2003 10:14:40 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine

Edited on 10/24/2003 12:02:17 PM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

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To: exmarine
Even if it were a Christian libertarian? (they DO exist)
1,741 posted on 10/27/2003 10:54:28 AM PST by honeygrl (All of the above is JUST MY OPINION)
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To: honeygrl
Actually, there are Christian libertarians (very few). One of them is a writer on WorldNetDaily, name of Vox Day.
1,742 posted on 10/27/2003 11:07:28 AM PST by exmarine
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To: exmarine
So would you vote for one if they ran for President?
1,743 posted on 10/27/2003 11:14:11 AM PST by honeygrl (All of the above is JUST MY OPINION)
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To: honeygrl
It's possible if I believed such a person to be genuine, and if their views were biblical all down the line.
1,744 posted on 10/27/2003 11:19:22 AM PST by exmarine
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To: TheAngryClam
Liberty is never an inborn right- it always comes with a price, usually a big one. The Founders knew that.

Don't you get tired of being wrong. The Decl. of Independence says that liberty is an inborn right - from God! "...endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty..." Care to re-think?

1,745 posted on 10/27/2003 11:27:39 AM PST by exmarine
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To: exmarine
Don't you get tired of being wrong. The Decl. of Independence says that liberty is an inborn right - from God!

That and $3.60 will get you a latte at Starbucks. The only liberty you have a right to is liberty you can grab for yourself and defend.

1,746 posted on 10/27/2003 11:45:42 AM PST by Modernman ("I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe."- Jango Fett)
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To: Modernman
That and $3.60 will get you a latte at Starbucks. The only liberty you have a right to is liberty you can grab for yourself and defend.

I already know that what God says means nothing to you. Nevertheless, it is a FACT. God-given rights can be abrogated by no man, and any tyrant who attempts to take them away should be overthrown by force, if necessary, and that goes for all of the marxists in this country who are trying to STEAL our God-given rights away. That is precisely what the Revolution was all about. Give me liberty or give me death. God is on the side of the just, and the revolutionary war was won against all odds - because God won it.

1,747 posted on 10/27/2003 11:49:54 AM PST by exmarine
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To: Modernman
I'll bet they didn't even teach you about Blackstone at Cornell, did they?
1,748 posted on 10/27/2003 11:51:34 AM PST by exmarine
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To: exmarine
I'll bet they didn't even teach you about Blackstone at Cornell, did they?

Briefly. Didn't seem all that important in this day and age.

1,749 posted on 10/27/2003 11:52:57 AM PST by Modernman ("I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe."- Jango Fett)
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To: Modernman
Briefly. Didn't seem all that important in this day and age.

You mean...this LIBERAL MARXIST HUMANIST day and age...it's all about ideology isn't it? Secular humanist law schools want nothing to do with one of the greatest legal minds in history because his views don't jive with their moral relativism. No wonder most people despise lawyers - most lawyers today have no principles other than the $$$ principle!

1,750 posted on 10/27/2003 11:56:05 AM PST by exmarine
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To: Modernman
The problem that you and all secular humanists face is that your views do not jive with the history of America and the intent of our founding fathers. And Christians are still very strong in this country - this is not post-Christian Europe.
1,751 posted on 10/27/2003 11:59:51 AM PST by exmarine
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To: exmarine
No wonder most people despise lawyers - most lawyers today have no principles other than the $$$ principle!

Most people despise lawyers because we make a lot more than they do. It's good to see that class-war rhetoric is alive and well.

1,752 posted on 10/27/2003 12:27:20 PM PST by Modernman ("I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe."- Jango Fett)
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To: exmarine
And because that says so it is the case?

I thought that's what you said the Bible was for.

And since you're so fond of finding a single quote and thereby claiming it proves your entire proposition, how's this one from Jefferson: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

Not very much like liberty is handed to people on a silver platter, is it?
1,753 posted on 10/27/2003 12:30:57 PM PST by TheAngryClam (Don't blame me, I voted for McClintock.)
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To: TheAngryClam
And because that says so it is the case?

The founders didn't invent the idea of God-given rights - they merely RECOGNIZED it! It's a fact whether you recognize it or not. Just the fact that you put so little credence on our founding documents is very revealing.

I thought that's what you said the Bible was for.

The founders recognized biblical authority as well as God's sovereignty over all nations.

And since you're so fond of finding a single quote and thereby claiming it proves your entire proposition, how's this one from Jefferson: "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

Yes, it gives the fight much more authority when you know that God is the giver of the rights you are defending. That automatically means anyone who tries to steal them is a tyrant and an usurper who must be opposed.

By the way, Jefferson attended church in the chambers of Congress and used the USMC band for worship - didn't someone tell him about the separation of church and state?

Not very much like liberty is handed to people on a silver platter, is it?

God gives it to us but it must be defended and fought for because evil godless men will try to steal it and lord themselves over the people - like the ACLU and the secular humanists are doing today.

1,754 posted on 10/27/2003 1:23:05 PM PST by exmarine
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To: Modernman
Most people despise lawyers because we make a lot more than they do. It's good to see that class-war rhetoric is alive and well.

I have nothing against money or rich people, but I don't like moral relativist lawyers. You should direct your comment to your fellow liberals who want to steal from the rich and redistribute their wealth.

You store up your treasure on earth, I will store mine up in heaven.

1,755 posted on 10/27/2003 1:25:25 PM PST by exmarine
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To: Modernman
Actually the way to find out is to simply ask God.
1,756 posted on 10/27/2003 1:38:26 PM PST by exnavy
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To: exnavy; Modernman
Ask God. Game Set Match.

Now, I don't know what that sleazy CP offered you guys to change the subject but I'll double it if you refrain from further discussions of a terminally boring nature. That is what we have CP for.

Thank you.

1,757 posted on 10/27/2003 3:30:45 PM PST by harrowup (So perfect I'm naturally humble)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
A witch hunt is fine when there is a legitimate target to hunt - and in this case, there is a legitimate target in showboy.
1,236 posted on 10/27/2003 12:48 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine

There you go again projecting. Now, how about it; would you like to admit that claiming thousands of plaintiffs prevail in defamation cases was at best gross hyperbole?

You can just answer yes and I'll leave you to the tender mercies of your harpies.

Scary? He ought to be able to handle it, if he's a grown up. Problem is with those who ain't wrapped all that tight is that they can't take a challenge without cussing out their tormentors.
And I can't say as I really care when they implode.
1,240 posted on 10/27/2003 12:58 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine

Bad guess, counsellor; you don't lose weight imploding, you just change shape...is that what you are, counsellor? A Shape-Changer? Allows you to slip through the cracks?

1,758 posted on 10/27/2003 3:40:13 PM PST by harrowup (So perfect I'm naturally humble)
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To: harrowup
There are somewhere between 250,000,000 and 300,000,000 americans. In my lifetime, there have been thousands of defamation cases, a small number of which have made it up on appeal. My statement is is accurate - and much more so than your moronic conclusion that church decrees of annulment have any bearing on civil divorces.

Prove me wrong.

Idiot.

1,759 posted on 10/27/2003 3:47:14 PM PST by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: harrowup
OK
1,760 posted on 10/27/2003 4:05:46 PM PST by exnavy
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