Militia member 'filled with rage,' plotted ambush

The Grand Rapids Press ^ | Friday, October 17, 2003 | Ed White

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Do you think you have a constitutional right to your arsenal?

[MissAmericanPie]

The attacks on the second amendment have to do with guys like this. The Fed figgures that with a paid for standing army, the congress no longer needs to call on a citizens militia for defense. Therefore the only reason for stockpiling such weapons would be revolution, an option which, according to the most important document the "Declaration of Independence", leaves open to citizens, not the Fed, to decide.

So any attempt on the part of the Fed to disarm, even a guy like this, is against the mans rights according to our founding documents. How many women have been told that the police are helpless to assist them against a crazy husband making threats to kill her until or unless the deed is done? Yet the Fed has cast down that excuse and refuses to wait until a person like the man in this article, actually does something. Can't have it both ways, or maybe they can.

They would have a hard time getting a conviction with me on the jury is all I'm saying.

[SpellingTroll]

I thought the same things. We shot frequently on my parents' land when I was a teen. One afternoon while taking target practice my dad and I looked up to see one of our neighbor's hiking across the field in the middle of our shooting range. We'd just returned from setting up more targets and reloading. We'd been shooting for about fifteen minutes already, yet the wacko just wandered through. The wacko actually became angry when told to leave.

Oh yea, I've had run-ins with people must like that. I've had people who have returned to my property, even after being told face-to-face (and in no uncertain terms) to get off my land and not come back. Once, during the firearms deer season, some yutz came strolling along, dressed head-to-toe in camo (no blaze orange, as is required in MI). I told him to get off my land, and he had the guts to stand there and tell me "I'm just walking through." Talk about arrogant.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

It was a matter of time.

[seowulf]

So, would my truck be considered a mobile compoud/arsenal? Or would that be restricted to mobile homes?

[AppyPappy]

What makes it a "compound?"

Inhabited by a right-winger.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Camo clad trailer trash is hardly a militia - its a punk rabble itching for the opportunity to shoot somebody.

[ArrogantBustard]

According to this "article", it's probably a "war wagon"...

That was a great John Wayne movie, BTW.

[FourPeas]

Exactly. This guy may be a nut-case, but considering that the Press felt it necessary to include a quote from a neighbor saying, "Who knows where the stray bullets are going.", this report isn't exactly a good example of impartiality.

[Fierce Allegiance]

the illuminati other some other hopeless stupidity Huh?

[MineralMan]

"Do you think you have a constitutional right to your arsenal?
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Absolutely. I don't believe I have a constitutional right to own Anti-aircraft weapons. We have a very nice military that owns plenty of them. Sadly, I never got to fire any when I served.

[Ribeye]

I live on 4 fully fenced acres just 20 min north of Los Angeles.

We have 6 big doggies that run lose on the property and don't like strangers (like me).

We have two large gun safes and 1K to 2K rounds for every weapon in the house (this IS California after all!).

We have food and water for 6-12 months. (earthquakes, riots, bad economy, supermarket strikes etc).

Oh, and I'm a white, male conservative.

The L.A. Times would call my place a compound (as do I when joking with my friends). My wife and I have a funny name for it though. We call it a "ranch".

[from occupied ga]

It was a matter of time.

LOL You provide a level of amusment when you say stuff like this.

You know this for a fact do you? You believe everthing that you read that comes from "government informants" Hmmm federal gun and drug charges. They will have planted a couple of ounces of pot and they will "discover" that he has an "unregistered machine gun" (probably the drawings to make one - which the BATF oh so reasonably considers to be a machine gun.)

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How do you know which calibers, cartirdges, and actions you should have a right to. Where do you draw the line? How do you know where to draw the line?

[Fierce Allegiance]

a ranch is what hollyweirdos buy. you live in a compound!

lol

[inquest]

We have a very nice military that owns plenty of them.

I don't think you're quite getting the point of this whole "second amendment" thing.

[headsonpikes]

Never mind 'Letters of Marque' - I'm awaiting 'Bills of Attainder'.

At my compound.

That Sharps must be a beauty. ;^)

[MissAmericanPie]

I'm afraid the way the founding documents read, he has the right to stockpile, and the rest of us have to wait until he actually does something with it that we don't like.

[Joe Brower]

You're changing the subject. Your initial question wasn't about how fit this particular individual is, mentally or otherwise, to exercise the RKBA. Your question was "I wonder if the 2nd Amendment had anti-aircraft weapons in mind?". It was to that query that I responded.

I agree -- this guy sounds like he's a bit off. With the "quality" of "news" reporting nowadays, though, one must wonder how much of this information is viable. If he did indeed have crosshairs drawn on GW and Rumsfield, he's no friend of mine.

Stay well,

[MineralMan]

"That Sharps must be a beauty. ;^)"

Actually, it's not all that beautiful. It was my great-grandfather's, a .54 Carbine. While I maintain it, I have not restored it or removed any of the knocks and dings it acquired during its lifetime. It's probably safe enough to fire, but I have no particular desire to do that. It's a memory piece for me. I'll keep it from rust, but I won't attempt to make it a showpiece.