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Legal Solution Now on Hand for Terri
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| 10/16/2003
| Gary McCullough
Posted on 10/16/2003 10:42:48 AM PDT by amdgmary
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To: sinkspur
Because we keep forgetting the power of the people--and of prayer.
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posted on
10/16/2003 11:34:14 AM PDT
by
sarasota
To: FreePaul
He was probably busy screwing his new wire.
To: nickcarraway
Pinging you to # 15.
To: FreePaul
I meant to say he was probably screwing his new wife to be (and stiffing his old one.)
To: grizzfan
Thanks
To: sinkspur
The executive branch is coequal with the judiciary and the legislature. Depends on how he approachs it. When a governor stays an execution, is he creating a constitutional crisis? There are other cases.
To: sinkspur
From Brian Fahling, a lwayer:
II. An Executive Order Does Not Impugn the Authority of the Court
The trial court order merely authorized Terris husband to direct that oral sustenance be denied her. An executive order that orders an investigation in this matter, with the concomitant appropriate actions that would be taken if a violation of Section 782.08 is found, does nothing to impugn the authority of the court. The executive order would ultimately operate only upon the husbands decision which he is merely permitted to make. It is interference with private discretion, not with judicial authority. If the consequences of the husbands exercise of discretion are determined to result in the unlawful taking of life, it is entirely appropriate that such actions be interdicted by law enforcement at the direction of the governor.
To: sinkspur
The 19 judges didn't say the ruling was right or wrong, they just didn't choose to intervene.
To: sinkspur
I read through the letters to Jeb posted above. They're, at best, thin. And, from what I've read in these letters, these legal tactics have been tried by the Schindler's legal team. I don't see anything that's especially interesting, novel or notable in them that Jeb's legal team could pursue.
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posted on
10/16/2003 12:02:14 PM PDT
by
Catspaw
To: amdgmary
If you know any doctors, nurses, grocers or restaurateurs in the area, ask them immediately not to sell or otherwise provide any food, drink or medical services to Michael Schiavo, his lawyers and Judge Greer.
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posted on
10/16/2003 12:05:28 PM PDT
by
T'wit
To: PleaseNoMore
It is also said that Jeb would not be violating the separation of powers by doing this... Ah, I see, so when the courts say the legislature overstepped their constitutional bounds in making a considered ruling, they're excercising what authority? Anybody, Anybody .. Checks and, anybody? Anybody. Checks and balances.
When one branch oversteps it's bounds or exceeds it's authority, it is the OBLIGATION of the other two to check it - not to turn their backs and say 'well it's their right.' The government has obligations to us first and foremost. It is Bush's obligation to do this and if he fails to the Legislature bears just as much responsibility to this citizen. Why are we not hitting them up.
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posted on
10/16/2003 12:05:42 PM PDT
by
Havoc
(If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
To: PleaseNoMore
It is also said that Jeb would not be violating the separation of powers by doing this... Ah, I see, so when the courts say the legislature overstepped their constitutional bounds in making a considered ruling, they're excercising what authority? Anybody, Anybody .. Checks and, anybody? Anybody. Checks and balances.
When one branch oversteps it's bounds or exceeds it's authority, it is the OBLIGATION of the other two to check it - not to turn their backs and say 'well it's their right.' The government has obligations to us first and foremost. It is Bush's obligation to do this and if he fails to the Legislature bears just as much responsibility to this citizen. Why are we not hitting them up.
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posted on
10/16/2003 12:05:43 PM PDT
by
Havoc
(If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
To: sinkspur
The court considers Terri in a "vegetative state" (that's ludicrous, but that's what it holds) and that she has expressed, through her husband, her desire to not have her life prolonged. That's the way I understand it, anyway. And, in that case, it would not be murder. Whether or not an act of killing an innocent person is murder is not something that's defined by a court. It's defined by the murderer.
Not too long ago, the courts held that negroes were not humans, and thus, it was OK to own them as property. In the even more recent past, a civilized western country's courts decided that it was legal to kill jews, gypsies, etc.
You remind me of the Pharisees who condemned Christ for healing on the Sabbath.
How come everybody's waiting until her body is shutting down to investigate this? Shouldn't the Schindler's have done this ten years ago, when the evidence would have been a lot more convincing?
Thank you for revealing your total lack of homework on this case.
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posted on
10/16/2003 12:14:03 PM PDT
by
Don Joe
To: 1stFreedom
I don't know a whole lot about Randall Terry other than what I've seen in the news over the years. But at least I know who he is. He would probably be shocked by your statements about him.
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posted on
10/16/2003 12:15:01 PM PDT
by
FreePaul
To: protest1
If this is not worthy of a "crisis" I don't know what is. Simple: an election.
Obviously the Florida GOP doesn't consider the mere killing of an innocent woman to rise to the same level as an election.
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posted on
10/16/2003 12:15:21 PM PDT
by
Don Joe
To: Havoc
And the other two branches have very specific ways of checking the one branch that does overstep its bounds.
If it is the judicial branch, it is through the power of appointment and impeachment. The executive branch appoints, the legislative branch has the power to impeach. Constitutionality is not protected by using a second wrong to correct the first one. That simply moves us even further toward a banana republic.
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posted on
10/16/2003 12:15:49 PM PDT
by
mongrel
To: G.Mason
Looks like this is Terri's next move here.
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posted on
10/16/2003 12:20:41 PM PDT
by
Marie Antoinette
(Caaaarefully poke the toothpick through the plastic...)
To: sinkspur
Judges have no qualms about violating the separation of powers, clause, that is exactly what has brought us to this shameful state of affairs. If Jed Bush has the power to override those heartless judges and save this ladies life, the only honorable thing to do is do it!
Respect for separation of powers was intended to flow both ways.
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posted on
10/16/2003 12:22:12 PM PDT
by
F.J. Mitchell
(Democrats take themselves seriously -to others that is an oxymoron . Seriously!)
To: amdgmary
We have forgotten the Florida State Senators and State legislatures(State Assemblyman/women), they are quiet, making no noise, not showing any interest....
The Florida STate Senate and Assembly is controlled by Republicans by 60-75%, The people of Florida and the Nation
,and the world need to get these quiet State legislatures
involved.....
anybody have there main websiite links ? i got to go to work..now..thanks
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posted on
10/16/2003 12:24:04 PM PDT
by
Orlando
To: All
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posted on
10/16/2003 12:39:37 PM PDT
by
Orlando
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