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Life's lucky 'kick start'
BBC News ^ | October 13, 2003 | Dr David Whitehouse

Posted on 10/16/2003 7:33:43 AM PDT by AntiGuv

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To: null and void
And were it a free-woman rather than a slave, that would have been an unsold pre-human.
301 posted on 10/20/2003 10:45:15 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: null and void
Seriously, who did Cain marry, if not one on the unsouled pre humans?

His sister or a niece. Just as Noah's grandchildren intermarried. No need for the unsouled from a very practical point of view.

302 posted on 10/20/2003 12:48:34 PM PDT by bondserv
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To: Doctor Stochastic
And were it a free-woman rather than a slave, that would have been an unsold pre-human.

Don't resent your lineage, pre-human. </sarcasm

303 posted on 10/20/2003 12:50:58 PM PDT by bondserv
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To: bondserv
A niece?
304 posted on 10/20/2003 12:59:36 PM PDT by null and void
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To: null and void
A niece?

Sure, the guy lived to be very old if Adam's age (930 yrs.)is any indication. How many kids could you have if your viability were extended 800 years.

Cain's brother Seth may have married his sister and had children of which Cain could have wed. More likely Cain married a sister rather than a niece.

305 posted on 10/20/2003 1:50:41 PM PDT by bondserv
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To: bondserv
Oh. Right. Thick of me.
306 posted on 10/20/2003 2:48:01 PM PDT by null and void
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To: BiffWondercat
It took a bit of time to answer your challenge... did you read my reply?
307 posted on 10/21/2003 11:13:11 AM PDT by pgyanke (Just seeking a simple courtesy...)
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To: pgyanke
Yes I did. I am not a theologian, so it's not a debate I would get into. I've seen a scant few works of bilical scholars that know it far better and have little problems accepting such inconsistencies.
308 posted on 10/21/2003 4:16:35 PM PDT by BiffWondercat
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To: BiffWondercat
You don't have to be a theologian to understand most of what I wrote to you. You continue to call them inconsistencies when clearly many are just taken out of context. Ah well... a guy can try.
309 posted on 10/21/2003 7:31:28 PM PDT by pgyanke (Big Bang Theory = First there was nothing...then it exploded.)
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To: pgyanke
"It's DUCK Season!" "No, It's RABBIT Season!"

I will conceed, as a "heathen" I am ill suited for a theological debate.

Though I would not prepare the kindling in haste!
310 posted on 10/21/2003 8:30:14 PM PDT by BiffWondercat
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To: PatrickHenry
bttt for later read this evening. :-)
311 posted on 10/22/2003 4:50:12 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Alamo-Girl; PatrickHenry
Re: Vampires. You should read "The Vampire Chronicles", by Anne Rice, in their entirety. She posits, if it can be believed, an actually plausible method by which these creatures in her novels came into being.

Greatly simplified, it is thus:

First, she used the "basic idea" that a "spirit" is actually an organism, composed of DNA that only "organizes" (and has the ability to do so) when it wishes. Other than that, it is as air. Considering the makeup of some fungi and seagoing colonies of life, not TOO far off. The "spirit" is basically more of a "colony" of molecules, which posseses a consciousness.

Second, (again in the novels) One such "spirit" which was attracted to human blood invaded the body of an Egyptian queen millennia ago, and fused with its DNA, causing a change in her most basic genetics. In essence, the spirit became a "symbiote" with the human, and the result was a blood-thirsting vampire. The alteration also altered the woman's (whose name was Akasha) aging process, essentially stopping it cold.

When the symbiotic lifeform (vampire) killed a victim, by sending some of her own blood back into the victim, she could also sent some of the symbiotic blood as well, thus creating a new symbiotic vampire as the "spirit's" DNA then fused with that of the new victim.

In essence, Ms. Rice attempted to explain the existance of her vampires without using anything "supernatural" or "unexplained". The result was that the reader (and the charecters) had, even in the "world" of the novels, a basic framework of rules the creatures HAD to operate under.

The "spirit's" DNA was susceptible to the Sun's rays, for example, and if it was exposed, it would die, thus killing the creature. Fire, too, was fatal. However, physical wounds were not, as the symbiotic DNA acted to heal them even as they were made. Further, the creature would die if starved of blood.

The "spirit" DNA also adapted the host in ways to make it more survivable...in addition to the longeviety, it also cured the human diseases present, and altered the human's looks to a point where they were pleasing to look at, the better to hunt victims.

Given what we now know of how parasites and symbiotic lifeforms do business (e.g., altering their victims' body chemistry), it was a good job of coming up with an explanation, which is more than some writers had done up to that point. Ms Rice, it seems, spent as much time with a science journall or two as she did creating her stories.

312 posted on 10/22/2003 5:16:53 AM PDT by Long Cut ( "Diplomacy is wasted on Tyrants.")
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To: Long Cut
Thank you so much for the interesting summary of her explanation for vampires! I've never read any of her books, but with her effort of naturalist verisimilitude it is no wonder they are popular.
313 posted on 10/22/2003 7:48:39 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: PatrickHenry
Placemarker
314 posted on 10/23/2003 10:03:58 AM PDT by Ogmios (Since when is 66 senate votes for judicial confirmations constitutional?)
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