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Apparently the author thought she saw Canadians as allies in the liberal culture war; the Canadians, on the other hand, just saw her as another American.

Better to face reality and see things as they really are.

1 posted on 10/15/2003 8:18:04 AM PDT by quidnunc
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At meetings of Democrats Abroad, a group affiliated with the U.S. Democratic party, which tries to help register U.S. Democrats to vote absentee, I have seen people fuming at this basso continuo of insult and prejudice.

LOL. Hey Canada! Welcome to the club!

26 posted on 10/15/2003 8:57:31 AM PDT by concerned about politics (What have you done with your life? Have you donated to the Salvation Army this week?)
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Some good points made on this thread.

One portion of this is simply a group-think phenomenon - an opinion or a set of opinions put on like a uniform in order to validate one's group membership. This happens a great deal on university campuses. And some of it is self-validating as well, as in "all the smart people I admire think this, hence I'll think this, hence I'm smart and admirable."

The sad part is that persons espousing this set of beliefs for this reason simultaneously cast their own self-image as independent-thinking and non-conformist. Largely, one supposes, because all the smart people do so...

28 posted on 10/15/2003 9:05:05 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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I a communist fall in the woods, does it make a noise??? Do I care??? And if I stick my foot up a commies butt, can I kick it again???
32 posted on 10/15/2003 9:12:49 AM PDT by Porterville (The Federal Government will make the rules... now shut up and take your Prozac!!!!)
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Of course, Canadian leftists will grate on American leftists! Candadians are WHINGERS. Whinging is British leftist behavior that passed to our leftist neighbors. Wingeing is what you call the constant Canadian bitching that they are underpaid and overworked. They look across the border and see the wealth and growth and want some.

And, since they are already anti-American leftists, they blame the disparity, not on their own failings, but on something, anything, American. The American leftist disagrees, not because he hates America any less, but because even he knows the power of hard work and individual motivation. French Cabadians and Western Canadians are nowhere near as bad (or as anti-American) as the lefties in Ontario.

34 posted on 10/15/2003 9:16:05 AM PDT by Tacis
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Canada, oh Canada. A beautiful country with many wonderful people.

Unfortunately for the last 200+ years it has been a shining beacon of mediocrity. Canada is not on most American's radar screen. Canada is barely on anybody's radar screen. Despite the bravery, hard work and intellect of it's citizens, Canada just has never really stood for anything. Even in WW1 & 2, Canada's participation was seen more as a duty to England, rather than a desire to further freedom.

I think it is a sad commentary about Canada, when it is best known for ice hockey and red clad mounted policemen.

Canada...so much potential......so little results.
36 posted on 10/15/2003 9:19:29 AM PDT by XRdsRev
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>>>>>>Others, whose families and careers have taken root here,....

There is 'Merican name for An American in Canada: DRAFTDODGER

45 posted on 10/15/2003 11:55:12 AM PDT by DTA
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Maybe they got tired of being called the retarded giant of the north. (he said, without apology)

Seriously, I've worse insults traded over baseball teams than the ones bitched about in the article.
48 posted on 10/15/2003 12:40:10 PM PDT by js1138
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The truth is that people who hate America,will do so whether there is a democrat or republican in office.It is an inferiority complex.

Most people around the world would have no clue that Clinton and Bush were from different political parties.

50 posted on 10/15/2003 12:46:27 PM PDT by armed_in_sydney
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Better to face reality and see things as they really are.

March 2003....Toronto....during one of the worse storms of the winter....


51 posted on 10/15/2003 1:17:55 PM PDT by kanawa
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Unfortunately, part of the anti-American sentiment is rooted in our English heritage - Canadians, being part of the commonwealth feel they identify more with that, unfortunately, it can make some of us behave like the Brits with regards to our attitudes towards Americans. Believe me, you want to hear comments like, "That's so American", go to England.
53 posted on 10/15/2003 1:40:29 PM PDT by IvanT
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I listened to something on NPR last night (I know, it was a mistake) about Germany and their feelings about the US. Its much worse over there, some are even longing for the old ways of the old East Germany.
56 posted on 10/15/2003 2:10:45 PM PDT by machman
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