WARPLANE WEAPONS: Smart Bombs Change Air Force Tactics

StrategyPage.com ^ | October 13, 2003

[John Jorsett]

In particular, a combination laser range finder/ night vision binocular/GPS units were particularly useful, especially since you could plug some of them into the satellite radio to transmit the GPS coordinates for the target to the bomber above.

Anyone know what these are? I've been looking for this kind of item for some work I'm doing.

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[Lazamataz]

Anyone know what these are? I've been looking for this kind of item for some work I'm doing.

What, you're starting your own war?

NTTAWWT.

[John Jorsett]

What, you're starting your own war?

Let's just say that I'm putting together a system for a law enforcement agency. Not to call in air strikes (although I'm sure they'd find that fun) but to identify the exact location of certain things from a distance.

[eno_]

Just what we need. More mil tech in law enforcement. What do cops need stuff like that for?

[Onelifetogive]

Just what we need. More mil tech in law enforcement. What do cops need stuff like that for?

No longer have to actually confront crack dealers on the street corner...just call in an air strike!

[Onelifetogive]

Just what we need. More mil tech in law enforcement. What do cops need stuff like that for?

And the simpleton/liberals (I know...redundant!) don't like high speed pursuits.....

[John Jorsett]

What do cops need stuff like that for?

To pinpoint a location so that officers can be directed there. Its about as threatening to civil liberties as a map, and a lot less error-prone.

[NJJ]

The most telling factor is when you consider that CONCRETE(!) bombs are used effectively.

[steplock]

Now if we could get the cops to LOSE the Jack-Boots, Face-Masks, and BLACK ninja-wannabee outfits.
Same for the jungles, etc. These are supposed to be "policemen" - you know - to serve & protect? HAH!

They wear masks now to avoid being procsecuted when people realize the extent of their breaking laws.

The police no longer protect and serve HONEST LAW-ABIDING citizens who must maintain their SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS to stay free!

[eno_]

Ties, shiny shoes, blue double breasted uniform jackets and peaked caps should be what cops wear. Revolvers, not automatics. The job title should read "Peace Officer" and the oath should be to the Constitution.

[fourdeuce82d]

Ties, shiny shoes, blue double breasted uniform jackets and peaked caps should be what cops wear. Revolvers, not automatics

BWAHHAAHAAHH... I'm going to bill you for the keyboard I just spewed on!

Hysterical post- good job. You perfectly captured the "black helicopter/mind control implant" goonie thing.

[eno_]

So what would be wrong with cops that actually dressed that way?

Or do you prefer a paramilitary police force?

[eno_]

And what kind of ops would require a tool like that? How would it be used?

[fourdeuce82d]

So what would be wrong with cops that actually dressed that way? Or do you prefer a paramilitary police force?

I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were serious.

For one thing, ties make a good handle to grab when you're fighting someone- wouldn't want to wear one if I was a cop, and sometimes had to subdue some knucklehead. Far as the rest of it, I don't really care what they wear on patrol.

Regarding the "revolvers, not automatics"...if you really need an explanation why that's a silly statment, I doubt you'd understand.

regarding whether or not I want a "paramilitary" police force, I want a police force that has the tools they need to deal with the demented nut-bags that make our lives difficult/dangerous/costly, and I want those tools used according to the constitution- i.e. no searches w/out PC, wiretaps w/warrant, etc..

[John Jorsett]

And what kind of ops would require a tool like that? How would it be used?

Just as an example: you've set up an observation point to watch for illegal dumpers and observe a truck 3 kilometers away illegally discharging hazardous waste. You use the laser range finder to determine where it is, and you radio to a patrol car to head to those coordinates before they get away. Without the range finder, you'd be guessing where they are and radioing things like, "they're about a hundred yards Northwest of that big oak tree," "you're almost there, just a couple more hillocks over," etc. It doesn't work very well. It's also handy in search-and-rescue operations, where you're trying to figure out where something you're seeing is so that you can direct the search.

[eno_]

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that all those cop toys make you safer.

They do not.

Check out the declining solution rates for crimes in your town. Equipment is not making police more effective. It is making them more dangerous.

[eno_]

Uh huh. Right. Illegal dumping gets both a stake out and a hugely expensive toy. I'm so sure.

I'm just curious: Why do cops really want this thing? There has to be some actual tactical doctrine or procedure that this is part of.

[fourdeuce82d]

Equipment is not making police more effective. It is making them more dangerous

perhaps you're right. radios, motorized vehicles...cops long ago didn't rely on this sort of equipment, why do they need it today?

I'm sorry, anybody who gets their nipples in a twist over cops carrying self-loaders vs. wheel guns because SLs are "military" doesn't really have a lot of credibility with me in a discussion over appropriate LEO purchases.