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Ancient remains found in central Florida peat farm
Associated Press in Naples (FL) News ^
| October 13, 2003
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Posted on 10/13/2003 12:26:57 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Bernard Marx
There's no way to prove that the remains are culturally connnected to any modern tribes. This business of returning archaic-period Indian remains to modern tribes is PC run amuck. It's like returning remains of some Proto-Celt to modern Germans or Poles.
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posted on
10/13/2003 2:04:20 PM PDT
by
Renfield
To: Renfield
It's like returning remains of some Proto-Celt to modern Germans or Poles. Right, it would be like that.
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posted on
10/13/2003 2:06:11 PM PDT
by
RightWhale
(Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
To: Bernard Marx
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posted on
10/13/2003 2:07:01 PM PDT
by
blam
To: Bernard Marx
Large sharks teeth were plentiful in the phosphate mining area east of Tampa, Florida. I once had a small collection.
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posted on
10/13/2003 2:09:33 PM PDT
by
gatex
To: Bernard Marx
That is the question of the day?
These PC people have been at PCing before it became mainstream. PC is the law of "new age" religion.
To: Renfield
This business of returning archaic-period Indian remains to modern tribes is PC run amuck. Clearly. But these tribes want to keep their perks and New Age charisma as "native Americans." If they allow study of old bones someone might prove that Siberian Asians weren't here first. Thanks to Indian Casinos they also have potent political muscle -- did you follow their huge cash contributions in the CA governor's race?
To: blam
Thanks for the map Blam. I hadn't realized there were so many. Do you have any info on underwater archaeology in the region? I imagine the coral would be a hindrance but this clearly is an area where water levels were much lower during the last ice age. Also, any new info on the underwater search near Cuba? I haven't seen anything for a while.
To: Bernard Marx
I certainly did follow their cash contributions. This brings up an interesting point. Der Arnold says he won't raise taxes, but I heard him say, on the day following the election, that he was going to visit the issue of "Indian Casinos" as a source of more revenue (although he didn't phrase it exactly that way). I hope he puts the real squeeze on them, although I'm not holding my breath.
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posted on
10/13/2003 2:36:54 PM PDT
by
Renfield
To: Bernard Marx
That's yet another field that deserves more study. 13,000 years ago, at the height of Wisconsinian glaciation, the coastline of western Florida was about 90 miles west of present-day Tampa Bay. I often wonder what's buried under the waves.
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posted on
10/13/2003 2:40:37 PM PDT
by
Renfield
To: Renfield
Oil and lots of it.
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posted on
10/13/2003 2:52:39 PM PDT
by
Conspiracy Guy
(Of course it doesn't rhyme. It's a tagline not a poem.)
To: blam
Well we both know that there are giant sunken megalithic structures South of Florida, just off the western end of Cuba. I bet lot of "Atlantean" refugees made it to Florida.
Cherokees are a mixture of these refugees and Native American types. Heck, we have even have a mythic figure called Wotan. Probably the same as the European one. Both were considered culture bearers.
To: Bernard Marx; Eternal_Bear; Renfield; glock rocks
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posted on
10/13/2003 3:09:40 PM PDT
by
blam
To: Eternal_Bear
Heck, we have even have a mythic figure called Wotan. Probably the same as the European one.Absolutely! And the Northern Chyenne were decendants of the Phoenecians. I love reading all that stuff!
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posted on
10/13/2003 3:12:24 PM PDT
by
johnny7
(Scratch the crust off a cow-pie and the stink comes out. It's true!)
To: Eternal_Bear
I am Cherokee, Irish, and English. But I have never gotten too involved with the Cherokee part.
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posted on
10/13/2003 3:16:18 PM PDT
by
Conspiracy Guy
(Of course it doesn't rhyme. It's a tagline not a poem.)
To: RightWhale
Were they American Indian remains?Sounds to me like they accidently came across Jimmy Hoffa.
Under the circumstances, I can't blame them for wanting to ditch the bones ASAP with minimal publicity.
To: Renfield
"That's yet another field that deserves more study. 13,000 years ago, at the height of Wisconsinian glaciation, the coastline of western Florida was about 90 miles west of present-day Tampa Bay. I often wonder what's buried under the waves." I have a theory that the Gulf Of Mexico was blocked off from the world's oceans across Yucatan, Cuba and Florida during the last Ice Age.
The Gulf Of Mexico would have dried up and essentially become a big lake. That's the only explanation I have for the underwater structures off the Cuban coast. They were built there on dry land during the Ice Age and were flooded 7-12,000 years ago when the 'dam' was broken...similar to the Black Sea flood in 5,600BC.
It could be a good site for Atlantis.(?)
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posted on
10/13/2003 3:24:05 PM PDT
by
blam
To: Lee'sGhost
I shoulda known somebody beat me to it.
I got to this thread waaaaaaaaaaay too late.
To: johnny7; Bernard Marx; Renfield; Flurry; Eternal_Bear
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posted on
10/13/2003 3:34:18 PM PDT
by
blam
To: blam
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posted on
10/13/2003 3:40:31 PM PDT
by
blam
To: Eternal_Bear
From the article linked in post #58
"Many in the anthropological community decry any suggestion of trans-Pacific or trans-Atlantic contact, as though the adoption by Native Americans of foreign technology would somehow take something away from them. The plain fact is that due to natural currents, both trans-Pacific and trans-Atlantic contacts were inevitable, if not by design, with certainty by accident. In the one century from 1775 to 1875 at least 20 Japanese junks were involuntarily driven by storms and currents to landing points from the Aleutian Islands to Mexico, an average of 1 watercraft every 5 years. (Robert Heine-Geldern, The Problem of Transpacific Influences in Mesoamerica, The Handbook of Middle American Indians, Volume 4, University of Texas Press, citing Brooks, 1875.) Further, in the last century some 600 African craft have washed up on the coast of South America, a rough average of 1 watercraft every 2 months. (John L. Sorenson and Martin H. Raish, Pre-Columbian Contact with the Americas Across the Oceans: An Annotated Bibliography, Vol II, p. 106, entry M-143)
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posted on
10/13/2003 4:09:33 PM PDT
by
blam
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