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Ted Cruz Could Be President—No, Seriously
Newsweek ^ | April 13, 2016 | Matthew Cooper

Posted on 04/13/2016 10:10:14 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: MaxistheBest

Wait a sec: Could Trump be shut out on the first ballot at the convention due to … Rule 40?
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/04/13/wait-a-sec-could-trump-be-shut-out-on-the-first-ballot-at-the-convention-due-to-rule-40/


61 posted on 04/14/2016 12:16:42 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: nathanbedford
Until Chuck Grassley leaves the Senate nobody is going to end corn welfare. Cruz has done nothing to end the practice, except to promise something, down the road, he has no control over. Just like the sugar king, viagra, Bob Dole.

IF Cruz had any clout he would be doing his Senate job, NOW, instead of holding closet caucuses, church house sermonizing, and endless bitching about ol mean Donald Trump.

62 posted on 04/14/2016 12:19:54 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: MIA_eccl1212
Reciting multiple pole results is hardly "yelling and screaming."


63 posted on 04/14/2016 12:20:02 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe you didn’t read the whole article:

“Now, let’s be realistic. It’s unlikely that delegates who are bound to vote for Trump on the first ballot would try to block him from the nomination by refusing to sign a Rule 40 written statement (especially if he’s clinched 1,237 delegates). If they’re that adamantly opposed to him, they could always bug out during the floor vote on the first ballot and withhold their support that way.”


64 posted on 04/14/2016 12:22:36 AM PDT by MaxistheBest
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Trump Effect
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/13/gop-convention-rule-changes-table-rncs-spring-meet/

Know he knows he can plan ahead with one goal and two options; Get to 1237 in the primary or get to 1237 on the first ballot.


65 posted on 04/14/2016 12:25:57 AM PDT by MaxistheBest
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To: Just mythoughts
Let's see, Donald Trump promises to increase corn subsidies and Ted Cruz promises to reduce and ultimately eliminate them, therefore we should vote for Donald Trump?

Too bad you don't apply your logic to the caucus campaigns. At a place where Donald Trump could actually change a result, namely the nomination process in Colorado, he chose not to participate. We both know he didn't participate because he knew he would lose and he wanted to convert that humiliation into an issue.

Who is "sermonizing" and indulging in "endless bitching?"

Donald Trump pontificates on matters over which "he has no control," declines to participate where he could make a difference, and then "endlessly bitches and complains."


66 posted on 04/14/2016 12:26:37 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Fidelito Cruz forgot he was born in Canada, parents didn’t file for CBRA within a year after his birth from American-born mom and Cuban-citizen dad.


67 posted on 04/14/2016 12:31:02 AM PDT by hamboy
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To: nathanbedford

nah... I was just referring to the all caps lock...

I like it when you post poll results and process the logic. Even when I don’t always understand or agree with the conclusion, I LIKE the processing of information.

{Thanks for responding btw...}

I saw an essay you wrote yesterday and it was about 8 paragraphs long, with fully developed chains of your logic... some of which I may not always concur... but I thought... that’s the NB that I am used to giving me something to digest.

I should have thanked you for it yesterday, but I must have lost my history in the browser. You probably remember it.


68 posted on 04/14/2016 12:31:27 AM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (When you see a drowning liberal, throw them the anchor...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Given the two articles from VF and 538 and the article on the Trump effect, I am going to say it’s over Cruz.

I’m gonna borrow one of your sayings from a previous post;

“You Heard it Here First” IT’S OVER FOR TED CRUZ


69 posted on 04/14/2016 12:31:43 AM PDT by MaxistheBest
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To: nathanbedford
Let's see, Donald Trump promises to increase corn subsidies and Ted Cruz promises to reduce and ultimately eliminate them, therefore we should vote for Donald Trump?

Cruz is in a position to do something NOW... Dare him to take on Grassley... like he pretended to take on McConnell.... Trump obviously took the time to find out just how much Iowans have come to rely on that government subsidy... I am all for ending the practice of growing corn to burn corn... however, I am a realists... and know the government practice of keeping the lobbyists in business so as to keep campaign stashes flush.. is not going to end until a different method of profit can be created for Iowa corn growers... The bigger question is why corn is so hard to make a profit in those so called 'free trade agreements'.

Too bad you don't apply your logic to the caucus campaigns. At a place where Donald Trump could actually change a result, namely the nomination process in Colorado, he chose not to participate. We both know he didn't participate because he knew he would lose and he wanted to convert that humiliation into an issue.

The Colorado GOP rules were by design to have a tiny PTA type crew assign delegates to the candidate of their choosing. Trump putting them on full ignore, allowing Cruz to crow like a barnyard rooster, exposed the Colorado voting business as excluding the majority of the peoples in Colorado. Live by the rules die by the rules... Trump just figured early, like in Iowa, it was a waste of his time to crawl in a closet with Cruz.

Who is "sermonizing" and indulging in "endless bitching?"

The Cruz wing of the GOPe.

Donald Trump pontificates on matters over which "he has no control," declines to participate where he could make a difference, and then "endlessly bitches and complains."

Trump opens up for a 'kitchen table' discussion by 'we the people' about how we want back a 'we the people' government. NOT ruled over by those that see US as slaves to pay back their donor givers. Trump exposes the political class as hooks and crooks, and those that believe they are entitled to live off the government teat.

70 posted on 04/14/2016 12:49:18 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: musicman

Indeed it was.


71 posted on 04/14/2016 12:53:39 AM PDT by Salamander (My Soul's On Fire...)
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To: nathanbedford
Every time we go to Walmart and buy a Chinese television are we not globalists?
Sadly we are forced to support globalists, when we have no American manufacturers left to select from. We have taxed and regulated them out of business.

Same goes for computers, cars, refrigerators. The bad trade deals and exorbitant taxes and regulations are part of the self perpetuating tail chasing that our current trade and tax policy comprises.

The chief fuel for those trade deals is political payoffs to politicians on both sides of the aisle... and their constituent welfare programs, in populace or business.

those who want that to continue pursue and support globalism. those who want that to end, are called isolationists and xenophobes.

For the record:

NO Candidate agrees with my world view. No party does either. But for me, right now, at this juncture I support... well you know the rest.

72 posted on 04/14/2016 12:56:51 AM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (When you see a drowning liberal, throw them the anchor...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
in the Senate, where he really pissed off his colleagues with a government shutdown, and even called his party’s leader, Sen. Mitch McConnell, a liar.

Aren't these the same people who have increased our national debt by $10 trillion over the last eight years? I'm with Ted.

73 posted on 04/14/2016 1:13:13 AM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: Just mythoughts

The Colorado delegates were originally slated to all go for Jeb! There wasn’t chance in the world that they were going anywhere else, why would they. No one planned for Jeb to be sidelined, but Trump took him out early.

Jeb dropped out, he still has a level of control and about 40 millions to wield that control.

Since Jeb has suspended his campaign, they needed an insider to be a place holder for the delegates. First it was Rubio. Now it turns out to be Cruz, who will control those delegates until the Convention, then, after a few slight of hand tricks, they are slated to go back to Jeb, or maybe Mitt.


74 posted on 04/14/2016 1:40:33 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
The Colorado delegates were originally slated to all go for Jeb! There wasn’t chance in the world that they were going anywhere else, why would they. No one planned for Jeb to be sidelined, but Trump took him out early. Jeb dropped out, he still has a level of control and about 40 millions to wield that control. Since Jeb has suspended his campaign, they needed an insider to be a place holder for the delegates. First it was Rubio. Now it turns out to be Cruz, who will control those delegates until the Convention, then, after a few slight of hand tricks, they are slated to go back to Jeb, or maybe Mitt.

The average voter will not take the time to figure out the GOP rules... They will simply see that the Colorado GOP did not want them voting, because they already decided who was going to get the delegates... Some are calling this a cheap way to hold elections... So fine, they picked their delegates.. for their nominee... and assured that Colorado will once again vote for the DIM come November... Stuck on stuck on stupid...

75 posted on 04/14/2016 1:56:21 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts
Cruz is in a position to do something NOW... Dare him to take on Grassley... like he pretended to take on McConnell.... Trump obviously took the time to find out just how much Iowans have come to rely on that government subsidy... I am all for ending the practice of growing corn to burn corn... however, I am a realists... and know the government practice of keeping the lobbyists in business so as to keep campaign stashes flush.. is not going to end until a different method of profit can be created for Iowa corn growers... The bigger question is why corn is so hard to make a profit in those so called 'free trade agreements'.

It is my hope that every open-minded reader of this forum considers the preceding paragraph as an example of the infinite rationalization characteristic of Trump and his supporters. One might add that it stands also as an example of the infinite capacity for hypocrisy in the Cruz camp. How many times have we read from Trump supporters that Cruz is a Rino, a sellout to the GOPe, and his calling out the majority leader of his own party in public on the floor of the Senate doesn't count? How many times have we heard that Cruz' fight to stop the Gang of Eight immigration Bill was not an effort to stop it but to expand it? How many times have we seen ignored Cruz' lobbying the House successfully (along with the election of Dave Brat) to kill that god-awful immigration bill in the House? Yet we hear time and again that Cruz is the GOPe sell out because he did not succeed. How many times have we heard that Cruz failed in his filibuster attempt to stop Obama care? How many times a week been told the Trump is a winner?

Trump is not a winner in Iowa, he tried to win the caucus but all he succeeded in doing was revealing his cynicism by supporting corn subsidies. And yet we are now told that Cruz is to be denied because he is on the wrong side of these issues and because he "failed?" But we are also to believe that Donald Trump is somehow not responsible for his positions.

These rationalizations occur time and again and ought to be recognized for what they are.

The Colorado GOP rules were by design to have a tiny PTA type crew assign delegates to the candidate of their choosing. Trump putting them on full ignore, allowing Cruz to crow like a barnyard rooster, exposed the Colorado voting business as excluding the majority of the peoples in Colorado. Live by the rules die by the rules... Trump just figured early, like in Iowa, it was a waste of his time to crawl in a closet with Cruz.

The same rationalizations and hypocrisy prevail in the next preceding paragraph. Trump was either too stupid to realize what the rules were or, knowing the rules, he opted out only to complain about the system in which he had not participated. His cynicism is akin to a ball team forfeiting the game and complaining about the rules.

Trump opens up for a 'kitchen table' discussion by 'we the people' about how we want back a 'we the people' government. NOT ruled over by those that see US as slaves to pay back their donor givers. Trump exposes the political class as hooks and crooks, and those that believe they are entitled to live off the government teat.

Note how the double standard is applied here. When Ted Cruz stands on the Senate floor all night long with a urine bag tied to his leg fighting for us against Obama care, the fact that he brought the matter to the attention the American people is dismissed. Note further:

Trump exposes…those that believe they are entitled to live off the government teat.

This only a few paragraphs after the cynical rationalization of Trump supporting corn subsidies in Iowa to get a vote. The hypocrisy is stunning and the open-minded reader can now be on the lookout for the same tactic to recur time after time.


76 posted on 04/14/2016 2:07:35 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

I will give you Cruz simplified .... VAT tax.... There is nothing conservative about a VAT tax.

Cruz ethics....

Mitch McConnell: Why no, the Senate won’t pass a resolution affirming Cruz’s eligibility like it did for McCain
POSTED AT 2:01 PM ON JANUARY 12, 2016 BY ALLAHPUNDIT

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/12/mitch-mcconnell-why-no-the-senate-wont-pass-a-resolution-affirming-cruzs-eligibility-like-it-did-for-mccain/


77 posted on 04/14/2016 2:18:08 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts

You gotta see it to believe it.

“It’s chaos. It’s a cluster #@@#. It’s the ultimate insider’s game,” said Josh Penry, a GOP operative in Denver who chaired Marco Rubio’s campaign in Colorado. “There are so many delegates in play.”......

......roughly 6,000 party activists in Colorado Springs, where 27 of the state’s 34 delegates to the Republican National Convention will be elected.”

So out of a 1,000,000 voters, 6,000 party activists chose 27 PARTY HACKS after viewing each of delegate for 10 seconds!

.06 % chose the delegates. (Please correct my math if it’s wrong)

SIX-TENTHS OF A PERCENTAGE OF THE COLORADO REPUBLICAN VOTERS CHOSE THE DELEGATES.

Colorado takes the prize for the most corrupt republicans to date.

Colorado GOP=Cook County DNC=Colorado GOP=Cook County DNC


78 posted on 04/14/2016 2:24:21 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Veracious Poet

Send all the politicians your prayers.

As prayers to an evil person is like placing hot coals upon their heads.

You actually torture evil by sending it loving thoughts.


79 posted on 04/14/2016 2:30:43 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
When Ted Cruz went to work for the George W. Bush presidential campaign in 2000, he had a lot going for him. He was in his 20s, a Texan, and smart, boasting a Harvard Law degree...



80 posted on 04/14/2016 2:32:07 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject)
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