Posted on 01/30/2016 2:50:36 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
My post 51 matches the video exactly. It shows the correct context for the Trump’s comments. The context was NOT about “Dr. Carsonâs religious conversion”.
Briebart has the quotes out of order. Watch the video and see for yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQPmEq30WtE
Unless you scored an A, right? If I received a grade report like that for my street, I’d be embarrassed, concerned, and disappointed. Would probably move. Don’t want to be around folks who are part of the problem instead of the solution.
I don't always get it right. I should have put the hot link in my first post instead of referencing Briebart. Sometimes I get my facts wrong, but not here.
You should have asked me for my source before challenging the truth of what I posted or beforeb accusing others of manipulating a story to push a lie.
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In that context he discusses the event of the knife incident.
You are correct in one sense. He said "How stupid are the people of Iowa? How stupid are the people of the country to believe this crap?" after he told the first part of the story, a knife breaking when Carson stabbed someone."
After questioning the truth of this and earlier events in Carson's life he goes back to the story:
So he's saying is that series of events. And he goes into the bathroom for a couple of hours and he comes out now he is religious. And the people of Iowa believe him. Give me a me a break, give me a break it doesn't happen that way. It doesn't happen that way. And some people might not like it 'oh that's not nice what you say' Don't be fools. Don't be fools, okay. "
So yes. He did say Iowans and the people of the country are not only stupid to believe this crap , he calls them fools.
He would have us believe Carson a liar because finding God does not happen that way. Trump did not use the word liar, but if it doesn't happen that way, what other conclusion is there? Carson lied.
I find that much more troublesome than calling someone stupid or a fool. Name calling his his thing, after all. Saying "It doesn't happen that way" tells me more about his moral compass than anything. This is what he thinks of someone's spiritual journey. If it is not done the way Trump thinks it is done, it is a false witness? Can you defend it or excuse it? Do you believe him when he tells Evangelicals he is on their side?
Nothing I posted was out of context. Not earlier, not now. These are his words and this is the context. Say what you will, but I did not take anything out of context and twist it around to make a point.
How stupid are the people of Iowa? How stupid are the people of the country to believe this crap?
In this instance the context was Dr Carson's religious conversion (From Briebart. )
In his biography, Carson has written about finding God after one of his violent outbursts, and doing so while sitting alone for hours in a bathroom. Trump wasn't buying it, and appeared to attack as "fools" and "stupid" voters who have, specifically Iowa voters:
Anyone in Iowa or the whole damned country is stupid to believe a man who told of the night he found God. This is how he wins. It turns my stomach because Trump has no boundaries.
You want to argue words, fine. I already said you were right. I conceded the word stupid was used after the knife part of the story. I did not take it out if context to prove a point. I relied on Breibart's story. You won.
There is more to the story. Trump talked about what happened after that. Trumps words, not mine, not Breibart's:
"...So he's saying is that series of events. And he goes into the bathroom for a couple of hours and he comes out now he is religious. And the people of Iowa believe him. Give me a break, give me a break it doesn't happen that way. It doesn't happen that way. And some people might not like it 'oh that's not nice what you say' Don't be fools. Don't be fools, okay. "
FOOL -- a person who acts unwisely or imprudently; a silly person.
synonyms
idiot, ass, blockhead, dunce, dolt, ignoramus, imbecile, cretin, dullard, simpleton, moron, clod
"Don't be a fool."
Again you are right. He did not say Iowans are Iowans stupid if they believe Carson's account of his "Come to Jesus" moment. He did say don't be a fool (idiot, ass, blockhead, dunce, dolt, ignoramus, imbecile, cretin, dullard, simpleton, moron, clod) because according to "The Gospel According to Trump." (MY words) it doesn't happen that way.
My interpretation is based on what he said. I have a problem with anyone claiming to know how these moments do or do not happen and considered a fool if I believe Carson's account.
“My interpretation”
OK.
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