Posted on 12/29/2015 10:55:34 PM PST by TBP
>>>”Rather than everyone repeating their arguments again, it might save time to reread the thread from 3 months ago, for those who wish to revisit this.”
It bears reminding, but you’re right. It has been hashed and re-hashed. FWIW, I re-re-hashed my argument on an old thread here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3363220/posts?page=495#495
All this is doing, is making the vast majority of Trump; supporters, who had Cruz as their second choice, to decide that they won't vote for Cruz, EVER, for ANYTHING,and to work all that much harder to get Trump; the nomination and elected president. You're doing a great job in ruining your candidate forever more.
Peoples views are allowed to evolve, just like Obama’s views on fudgepacker marriage. Trump will build the wall, bomb ISIS , stimulate the economy and keep the cronies out of Washington. His past views are not that important to me.
"I'm a conservative on most issues but a liberal on this one," Trump wrote. "We should not hear so many stories of families ruined by health care expenses. We must not allow citizens with medical problems to go untreated because of financial problems or red tape."
When he turned to how the country might achieve universal coverage, Trump focused like a laser beam on a Canadian-style, single-payer plan. He said it would eliminate many billions of dollars of overhead.
"The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than America," he wrote. "We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing."
For people too young for actual retirement, the old system was a setup for eventual failure.
We continue to ship ever-more jobs to Asia, and so ever-more Americans are losing their jobs.
Every time that happens, if you are on an existing coverage program, if you end up out of the existing coverage go-forward for something you get treated by the existing coverer for, if you end up losing your job, you would LOSE COVERAGE FOR THAT THING.
Not because you stopped being covered. Because you changed insurers.
That is completely unfair, and that is what Obamacare covered for the first time.
Lots and lots of people ran aside of their existing coverage for this.
That was fixed, by Obamacare.
So while I believe Obamacare needs to be fixed, we should not go back to the mess we had before. It was even worse.
“That said, Medicare is a single payer system and everyone around here squeals like a stuck pig when the politicians talk about cutting entitlements like Medicare. “
Exactly. Why can’t people be honest about this, I deplore that kind of dishonesty just so Trump or whoever can be attacked in this kind of pathetic way.
This is two-month old “news”. Ya’ll need to dig up some new dirt on Trump; recycling the same BS here over and over again is getting REALLY boring!
You know Trump PERSONALLY, do you?
You also know all of his friends, enemies, business associates, and family too ?
Just how long have you been his dear, close friend?
Yet you "trust" some other candidate, Cruz perhaps?
WHY ?
>>Except his “own words” don’t support single payer.
His own words support both. In the same interview in this case. Unless you can parse government-funded universal healthcare in some way that isn’t “single payer.”
Trump’s support for single payer goes back further and longer than his private sector statements.
He’s for both. Whatever you want to hear.
Perhaps, deep down, they know that their chosen one isn't going to make it.
Medicare & Medicaid have been around for years.
Is there any chance at all we can find out the date on this?
SOO annoying. Deceptive.
There it is. September 28th.
Just annoying
Cruz-aid? Lol! I imagine it tastes bland.
You ever hear that Cruz praised Hillary for anything?
I know what I know.....
Sorry you don't understand....
That is not logical. A Democrat president will advance far more of the Democrat agenda than a Republican president would, even if the Republican president is not perfect and advances some Democrat issues. Hillary Clinton as president would be something else, and someone beating her (be it Trump or Cruz) is an imperative.
Mingled with the after taste of bitter almonds/cyanide.
So to gain “portability,” which is a good thing, we have to take the $hit sandwich which is the rest of OCare is that it? Portability isn’t of any value if your premiums and deductibles are so high that you end up paying for everything yourself! I guess we were lucky. I always had employer-provided HC insurance until I retired, and we never had one problem with any of it. So as I see it, Obolacare isn’t a plus in any way, and I feel sorry for all those who have to contend with it. Fewer doctors, fewer available types of care and all that goes with it.
Please remember to turn down Medicare when you get to be 65.
Except his “own words” don’t support single payer. Just the idiots who are rehashing disinformation from 3 months ago.
DUDE.......that’s like so long ago.......
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