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Why Donald Trump Or Ted Cruz Would Be Such A Disaster For Mitch McConnell
Talking Point Memo's DC ^ | December 21, 2015 | Lauren Fox

Posted on 12/21/2015 2:13:45 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: conservativejoy
BOVINE EXCREMENT; you don't know what you're talking about, at all, and are just making yourself look foolish.
41 posted on 12/21/2015 3:21:17 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Duchess47

Trump’s business ties to the Mob are well documented by contracts ands real estate purchases.


42 posted on 12/21/2015 3:21:22 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If it’s cruz, he’ll have long and wide coattails - those levers of power will surely, finally change hands...


43 posted on 12/21/2015 3:22:44 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Duchess47

The TDSers cling to any straw they can grab. LOL


44 posted on 12/21/2015 3:22:57 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

So Ted Cruz’s lifetime history of speaking and debating have no bearing on a debate with Hillary Clinton? Please explain that to us.


45 posted on 12/21/2015 3:23:54 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: conservativejoy

Yeh, sure. It’s been in all the media hasn’t it? Oh, it hasn’t? Maybe because it’s slander and libel.


46 posted on 12/21/2015 3:23:59 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Duchess47

Yes, it has been in the media, but it likely would not be welcome here. Hillary will use it when it will have the most impact.


47 posted on 12/21/2015 3:25:43 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: conservativejoy
You are whistling past the graveyard with that bilge! Nor do you know ANYTHING at all about the construction business in the Tri-State area.

If Trump is oh SO "mobbed up", then why hasn't anything, ANYTHING AT ALL, been all over the NYC newspapers and nightly news shows for decades? Come on, answer that query and don't do it with stupid insults and/or lies.

48 posted on 12/21/2015 3:25:52 PM PST by nopardons
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How well did his debating skills work in the last debate. A yelling match between him and Rubio, he said, he said. And overriding the buzzer to make his point.

That will go over real well with Democrats and those on the fence when he starts that with an old woman at a timed debate. Do you think the moderators of such a debate would give him an inch?


49 posted on 12/21/2015 3:27:42 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
None, absolutely NONE at all!

I have already explained why, over and over and over again. Rick Lazio was considered to be as good a debater as Ted is. She DESTROYED him.

50 posted on 12/21/2015 3:27:46 PM PST by nopardons
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To: conservativejoy
No it has not been in the media!

I have been reading the NYC newspapers since I was 10 and it hasn't been in them.

51 posted on 12/21/2015 3:29:00 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

It has been reported in the media. You are very naive if you think anyone conducted business in NYC real estate, construction, and Atlantic City casinos without the Mob being involved. Nobody did construction in NYC without the Mob, who owns and controls the major construction companies there.


52 posted on 12/21/2015 3:29:30 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: nopardons

Horseshit.


53 posted on 12/21/2015 3:29:31 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: conservativejoy

Of course, but that doesn’t mean that he is “all mobbed up”!
Good grief...grab a damned clue.


54 posted on 12/21/2015 3:30:36 PM PST by nopardons
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, that’s all you’ve been posting of late.
Still, that does help roses grow well.


55 posted on 12/21/2015 3:31:24 PM PST by nopardons
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To: conservativejoy
Cruz was born to a foreign father in a foreign land. He is not even close to being a natural born Citizen.
56 posted on 12/21/2015 3:33:28 PM PST by Godebert
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mr. Trump would verbally smack him! McConnell would not be able to take the heat!


57 posted on 12/21/2015 3:34:23 PM PST by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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To: nopardons
This is from the WSJ, 12/14/2015:

Monday, December 14, 2015

Donald Trump and the Mafia

Donald Trump says he'll succeed as President because he has succeeded in business, so it's appropriate to scour his business record. One area in particular that deserves scrutiny is his business relationship with companies controlled by the Mafia.

The reporting on this has so far been scanty, and we have no new revelations. But Mr. Trump was active in construction in the 1980s, when federal racketeering cases highlighted the influence that a "club" of mobsters exerted over large construction projects in New York City. In one 1988 trial, Anthony "Fat Tony" Salerno, boss of the Genovese crime family, was among those convicted in a scheme to control and profit from the concrete contracts for numerous buildings in Manhattan, including Trump Plaza.

We asked Mr. Trump about these ties on his recent visit to the Journal, and his answers are worth hearing at length. Mr. Trump recalled that in Manhattan there were perhaps three concrete companies and "virtually every building that was built was built with these companies." He added that "a lot,all of these people,—were somehow associated, according to what I read, I don't know it for a fact." Since the Mafia is in the business of stealing, we figured Mr. Trump would be angry that he had to build a "mob tax" into the cost of his projects. But he seemed to be a satisfied customer.

In his stream-of-consciousness way, Mr. Trump described the concrete companies of that era: "You know, Wall Street Journal didn't write about these guys but these guys were excellent contractors. They were phenomenal. They could do three floors a week in concrete. Nobody else in the world could do three floors a week. I mean they were unbelievable. Trump Tower, other buildings. They would do literally—and you’d say how can you do three? The'd set it, pour it; before the concrete was even dry, they would be putting forms on the floor working off the steel beams, okay?"

He added that "they were unbelievably good contractors in terms of doing the work. But a lot of them were supposedly associated with the mob." Did he realize at the time that he was, for example, working with a company largely controlled by Salerno? "No, nobody would know that,"said Mr. Trump.

He recalled that after the bust following the 1980s real-estate boom, many contractors "tended to be not around so much after that. Then a lot of them got indicted I think by [former New York County District Attorney Robert] Morgenthau, who was a great D.A., fantastic guy, fantastic, but he indicted a lot of people. I don't know in concrete, but a lot of people were indicted. And then they started sort of disappearing. Actually it's a much different world today. But if you built a building in New York, you basically were, unless you didn't want to build it, you basically had to use one of the two or three companies that were there, for the concrete structure mostly." Atlantic City brought more transactions with wise guys. The Washington Post recently reported that Mr. Trump's casino license was delayed as he was developing the Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in part because of ties to reputed Scarfo crime family associate Kenny Shapiro.

Asked about a July CNN report suggesting Mr. Trump had overpaid for a parcel of Atlantic City land from Philadelphia mobster Salvatore Testa, Mr. Trump said, "I don't know who Testa is."CNN reported that the transaction occurred in 1982. That was a long time ago—and two years before Testa was found shot to death.

What about the contractors in south Jersey? "You had contractors that were supposedly mob-oriented all over Atlantic City," Mr. Trump said, adding that "every single casino company used the same companies, just I hope you will say that." Mr. Trump said that "unlike the ones I told you about in New York, they had some lousy contractors. But basically when you're in Atlantic City, you're using all of the contractors, you bid them out. Some of them may have been mob-oriented, I don't know."

But if Mr. Trump didn't know whether his associates had mob ties, why did he warn others not to get involved in casino gambling lest they attract organized crime? Mr. Trump now says he was merely trying to discourage potential competitors from entering the casino business: "I'd say negative about it because I didn't want to have other jurisdictions do gambling. That's sort of, like, you know, basic business sense." So he says he warned about mob influence to deter competitors while claiming lack of knowledge about mob ties to his own projects.

Mr. Trump has never been accused of a crime, and his see-no-evil, he-had-no-choice explanation worked for him as a businessman. The question is whether this is adequate for someone who wants to be President.

The question is especially apt for GOP primary voters because Democrats would surely raise it in the general election. Mitt Romney lost in 2012 in part because Democrats trashed his stellar business record in private equity. Better to vet Mr. Trump's business record now than next October. http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-and-the-goodfellas-1449877685

58 posted on 12/21/2015 3:43:16 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God ...We Can Elect Ted Cruz)
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To: nopardons
Joke post?
How many national debating championships has Rick Lazio won?
How many cases has he argued before the US Supreme Court let alone won?
59 posted on 12/21/2015 3:57:21 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Duchess47
How well did his debating skills work in the last debate. A yelling match between him and Rubio, he said, he said. And overriding the buzzer to make his point

Look at his poll numbers after the debate. He hit 40% for the first time ever in ANY poll in Iowa and overtook Rubio in his own home state of Florida.

60 posted on 12/21/2015 4:02:23 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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