[fish hawk]

I call Libertarians broken clocks. They may be right on two subjects but wrong on the whole rest of the dial. Actually I call them something else but I can't say that here. Even that John Stossel that O’Reiley has on all the time is a total idiot jerk.

[Secret Agent Man]

No, we get them, we just don’t want them.

[dangus]

It's not that we don't get Libertarians. I don't remember who said it, but I heard someone express the problem perfectly:

Everything terrifying about Ron Paul, he can accomplish on his first day in office. Everything that Republicans love about Ron Paul, he'll never get done.

As a 3rd party, they've never had to govern, and they can have all the stupid ideas they want.

But the basic problem with third parties is this: If a third-party movement cannot capture the largest share of one of the two political parties, it cannot possibly capture the largest share of the electorate as a whole. Therefore, all third-party movements are either cults of personality, or doomed to failure. Worse, they necessarily will attract more voters from the party which has previously attracted their supporters, thus weakening whatever political positions they support.

I have come to the conclusion that Republicans are merely the good cop in the socialists' good cop/bad cop routine with Americans. But the way to do something about this is to first conquer the Republican party, THEN win general elections.