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Jeb Bush criticizes Katherine Harris' Senate campaign
The Gainesville Sun ^ | April 7, 2006 | Joe Follick

Posted on 04/09/2006 5:11:19 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Still waiting......


BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP....


101 posted on 04/09/2006 7:23:45 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (FREE PAUL_DENTON!!!!!)
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To: MikefromOhio
BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP..

Yeah I just backed up over your lifeless body too.

102 posted on 04/09/2006 7:55:18 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (A nickel bag gets sold in the park. I WANT IN!)
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To: MikefromOhio
Where did I say I opposed her? Don't get me started because AGAIN you are incorrect here.

Is engaging in Clintonspeak is all you ever do? You don't support her, that's fine. I'll just leave it at that.

103 posted on 04/09/2006 7:59:34 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (A nickel bag gets sold in the park. I WANT IN!)
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To: AmishDude

Robin Higgins


104 posted on 04/09/2006 8:02:52 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Is engaging in Clintonspeak is all you ever do? You don't support her, that's fine. I'll just leave it at that.

And exactly WHO is making things up and then LYING about what was said? That'd be you and that was VERY Clintonesque of you. You must've been a GREAT student of his.
105 posted on 04/09/2006 8:03:10 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (FREE PAUL_DENTON!!!!!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Yeah I just backed up over your lifeless body too.

Still waiting on your retraction if you are man enough to give it (I seriously don't expect it either)
106 posted on 04/09/2006 8:03:41 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (FREE PAUL_DENTON!!!!!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Seriously, I've got a dark horse candidate.

Robin Higgins is a retired USMC Lt.Col, former Florida Director of Veterans Affairs, former Asst. Director, U.S. Veterans Affairs, and in a time when terrorism prevention is a +17 Republican issue, she is the widow of Marine Corps Lt. Col Rich Higgins.

Col Higgins was serving as a UN "peacekeeper" in Lebanon, when he was kidnapped by Islamic terrorists who then brutally tortured him. Finally, they stripped him nude and hanged him, all on videotape... which they showed with great pride throughout SWA.

She has ISSUES that she can beat Nelson on, especially since I think Nelson voted against the re-auth. of the Patriot Act.

Since Nelson voted for the Patriot Act in 2001 and against it this year, we could even create another "I actually voted for it before I voted against it" commercial.

Some backgrund:
There are really "five Floridas" for demographic voting purposes.

1 Hispanic South Florida
2 Retired, mainly Jewish Southeast Florida
3 Retired, mainly non-Jewish Southwest Florida
4 Industrial I-4, along the interstate highways from Tampa to Orlando, Daytona and Jacksonville, It's a lot of Yupps, Dinks, etc.
5 The Panhandle, AKA the Redneck Riviera, where most cars have an NRA window decal

To win statewide in Florida, you need to win at least three of those zones.

Robin Higgins wins with the SW retired crowd big time 58-40
She sweeps the Redneck Riviera 62-35
She does 54-44 in Tampa to Jax
She takes away Nelson's strength in Jewish SE Florida with her strong stand against, (and personal experience with,) Islamic terrorism. Probably loses there 46-48
She even probably wins the Hispanic Miami vote with Senator Mel Martinez, and the Diaz-Billard Congresscritter brothers working for her and the strong patriotic stance of many Cubans who remember Castro. Call is 47-46.

Statewide? Easily 54%+

Statewide, she also has the Soccer Moms locked on security issues (remember, security issues are a +17 for us) and every military vet, (I.E. most of us down here) is out working our butt off for her.

Who except the Gays and Labor are working for Nelson?.. and Big Labor is almost meaningless here.

She loses the Black vote 80-20, but this isn't a Presidential year and we will ensure no one runs against Corinne Brown or Alcee Hhastings for Congress, so the Black turnout will be very low. What Black man is going to take time off work to vote for Bill Nelson?

Like I said, 54+, possibly even 55, 56%


107 posted on 04/10/2006 12:31:03 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: AmishDude

Seriously, I've got a dark horse candidate.

Robin Higgins is a retired USMC Lt.Col, former Florida Director of Veterans Affairs, former Asst. Director, U.S. Veterans Affairs, and in a time when terrorism prevention is a +17 Republican issue, she is the widow of Marine Corps Lt. Col Rich Higgins.

Col Higgins was serving as a UN "peacekeeper" in Lebanon, when he was kidnapped by Islamic terrorists who then brutally tortured him. Finally, they stripped him nude and hanged him, all on videotape... which they showed with great pride throughout SWA.

She has ISSUES that she can beat Nelson on, especially since I think Nelson voted against the re-auth. of the Patriot Act.

Since Nelson voted for the Patriot Act in 2001 and against it this year, we could even create another "I actually voted for it before I voted against it" commercial.

Some backgrund:
There are really "five Floridas" for demographic voting purposes.

1 Hispanic South Florida
2 Retired, mainly Jewish Southeast Florida
3 Retired, mainly non-Jewish Southwest Florida
4 Industrial I-4, along the interstate highways from Tampa to Orlando, Daytona and Jacksonville, It's a lot of Yupps, Dinks, etc.
5 The Panhandle, AKA the Redneck Riviera, where most cars have an NRA window decal

To win statewide in Florida, you need to win at least three of those zones.

Robin Higgins wins with the SW retired crowd big time 58-40
She sweeps the Redneck Riviera 62-35
She does 54-44 in Tampa to Jax
She takes away Nelson's strength in Jewish SE Florida with her strong stand against, (and personal experience with,) Islamic terrorism. Probably loses there 46-48
She even probably wins the Hispanic Miami vote with Senator Mel Martinez, and the Diaz-Billard Congresscritter brothers working for her and the strong patriotic stance of many Cubans who remember Castro. Call is 47-46.

Statewide? Easily 54%+

Statewide, she also has the Soccer Moms locked on security issues (remember, security issues are a +17 for us) and every military vet, (I.E. most of us down here) are out working our butt off for her.

Who except the Gays and Labor are working for Nelson?.. and Big Labor is almost meaningless here.

She loses the Black vote 80-20, but this isn't a Presidential year and we will ensure no one runs against Corinne Brown or Alcee Hhastings for Congress, so the Black turnout will be very low. What Black man is going to take time off work to vote for Bill Nelson?

Like I said, 54+, possibly even 55, 56%


108 posted on 04/10/2006 12:31:53 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: MindBender26

She'd lose by 3-5 points if she's articulate and attractive. You're judging on issues and that only goes so far. She has no electoral record, has only achieved Lt. Col. and her claim to heroism is her husband.

Her bio is excellent and if she can make a good showing against Harris in the primary, then you might be right, but there is no way that a bio can get elected Senator in any state. And she would get murdered if she were a replacement candidate for a Harris that drops out.


109 posted on 04/10/2006 9:17:56 AM PDT by AmishDude (AmishDude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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To: MindBender26; MassachusettsGOP; MikefromOhio; HitmanLV

Speaking for myself, I'd like for state Chief Financial Officer Tom Gallagher to be the nominee.


110 posted on 04/10/2006 9:18:18 AM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Bob Taft for Impeachment)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I'd go with him, but he wants to be Guv.


111 posted on 04/10/2006 10:42:03 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: AmishDude

Please read the "Five Floridas" analysis


112 posted on 04/10/2006 10:43:35 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: MindBender26

First, I don't know where your numbers come from.

Second, being unelected, she doesn't even have a base to depend on.

I'm sorry, but in an electoral sense, she is little more than "generic Republican." And let's face it, the mushy middle wants to hear tough talk on terrorism, but they feel a little queasy about being reminded of it day to day.

The blue hairs are voting Nelson. Period.


113 posted on 04/10/2006 11:04:08 AM PDT by AmishDude (AmishDude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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To: MindBender26
Your 5 Florida theory is quite intriguing. Different FL Republicans have won their statewide race by using different combinations. For example President Bush won FL by wooing:

3 Retired, mainly non-Jewish Southwest Florida

4 Industrial I-4, along the interstate highways from Tampa to Orlando, Daytona and Jacksonville

5 The Panhandle, AKA the Redneck Riviera

Whereas Mel Martinez won by courting:

1 Hispanic South Florida (Miami-Dade saved him)
3 Retired, mainly non-Jewish Southwest Florida
4 Industrial I-4 (running even with Castro)
In the long term, by having different GOP candidates win by using different combinations of the 5 FL theory helpful in broading the base or does it send mixed messages about the FL GOP?
114 posted on 04/10/2006 12:54:29 PM PDT by Kuksool
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To: All

With Katherine staying in the race, the only place she could carry would be:

3 Retired, mainly non-Jewish Southwest Florida

Even then, it probably wouldn't be by much.


115 posted on 04/10/2006 12:59:23 PM PDT by Kuksool
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To: All

With Katherine staying in the race, the only place she could carry would be:

3 Retired, mainly non-Jewish Southwest Florida

Even then, it probably wouldn't be by much.


116 posted on 04/10/2006 12:59:25 PM PDT by Kuksool
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To: AmishDude
>First, I don't know where your numbers come from

40 years of covering, influencing (and occasionally buying) Florida elections.

>Second, being unelected, she doesn't even have a base to depend on.

No first election candidate does. Except she has the Rs, the Vets, the Cs, and most importantly, some of the Bluehairs.

>The blue hairs are voting Nelson. Period.

Actually not. Men will vote for her in droves.
117 posted on 04/10/2006 1:04:32 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: Kuksool
>does it send mixed messages about the FL GOP?

Mixed messages are something "political involvement elites" such as FReepers (and DUmmies) care about.

The middle of the roaders, no problem there. "It's a what's in it for me" at that level.
118 posted on 04/10/2006 1:11:06 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: MindBender26
>First, I don't know where your numbers come from

40 years of covering, influencing (and occasionally buying) Florida elections.

Ah, your posterior.

OK. How many speeches have you seen her give?

And what is the point? Is she running? Or are you proposing parachuting her in and anointing her?

119 posted on 04/10/2006 1:16:35 PM PDT by AmishDude (AmishDude, servant of the dark lord Xenu.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

120 posts and no-one has invoked the rules!


120 posted on 04/10/2006 1:25:54 PM PDT by aShepard
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