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Virginia Campaign News - Monday, July 25 - Thread XVII - Hot Hot Hot!
various | July 25, 2005 | various

Posted on 07/25/2005 12:01:49 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands

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To: Corin Stormhands
Looking carefully at the chart, you can easily spot the problem with the last poll.

The numbers for both candidates are consistent, EXCEPT for the last poll.

There is no reason for the sudden drop in Kilgore's poll numbers. As a matter of fact, he won the debate, and his numbers go down??? What is wrong with this picture?? Better still, what is wrong with this poll??
41 posted on 07/27/2005 8:45:50 AM PDT by GeorgeW23225 (Liberals really aren*t bad people. It*s just that they know so much that simply ISN*T true.)
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To: GeorgeW23225
As a matter of fact, he won the debate, and his numbers go down??? What is wrong with this picture?? Better still, what is wrong with this poll??

Exactly.

He won the debate.

He doubled Kaine's fundraising in June.

He was just endorsed by the National Federation of Independent Businesses, something they've never done, as well as National Right to Life AND President Bush.

And I'd simply point once again to the fact that the M-D poll has them even in Northern Virginia.

Mason-Dixon is good, but everyone has a bad day now and then. This is theirs.

42 posted on 07/27/2005 8:50:06 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands; GeorgeW23225
Mason-Dixon is good, but everyone has a bad day now and then. This is theirs.

My sentiments exactly.

And the point of the NFIB endorsement is correct also - and not just in VA. I worked for the Delaware NFIB director back in the 80s.........candidate endorsements just weren't done, so that endorsement is a MAJOR coup.

43 posted on 07/27/2005 9:16:57 AM PDT by Gabz (USSG Warning: Portable sewing machines are known to cause broken ankles)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Hi. Would you please remove me from your ping list? I'm taking a long break from FR and I didn't want you to have to ping me anymore.

Thanks,

SSCPOWife


44 posted on 07/27/2005 11:18:00 AM PDT by SilentServiceCPOWife
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To: SilentServiceCPOWife

Consider it done. Let me know if you'd like back on.


45 posted on 07/27/2005 11:18:54 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Thanks. I will. :-)


46 posted on 07/27/2005 11:21:01 AM PDT by SilentServiceCPOWife
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To: iceskater

I just tuned out Watson for the last time. I can't take any more.


47 posted on 07/27/2005 12:58:45 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands

I've been in meetings. What did he do now?


48 posted on 07/27/2005 1:55:26 PM PDT by iceskater ("Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind." - Kipling)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Hey, that's a neat chart.

George Allen in the news:



Allen celebrates welfare reform
Roll has declined by 50 percent since effort started, he said
BY TYLER WHITLEY
TIMES-DISPATCH STAFF WRITER
Tuesday, July 26, 2005


U.S. Sen. George Allen, R-Va., came to Richmond's Gilpin Court yesterday to celebrate the 10th anniversary of his welfare-reform program.

As governor, Allen pushed through the General Assembly in 1995 a welfare-reform plan that required able-bodied recipients to work. It also limited welfare payments to two years.

A reluctant President Bill Clinton signed federal welfare-reform legislation a year later.

Virginia sought and won a waiver from the federal law.

"Our plan was more comprehensive, tougher, more effective," Allen said.

http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Common%2FMGArticle%2FPrintVersion&c=MGArticle&cid=1031784061212&image=timesdispatch80x60.gif&oasDN=timesdispatch.com


49 posted on 07/27/2005 1:57:05 PM PDT by Ligeia (It's time to sign up and help Jerry Kilgore!)
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To: iceskater

He was talking about the latest parent to leave a child in a hot car. Said he was gonna start a pool for when the first child would die.


50 posted on 07/27/2005 1:57:09 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Oh for cryin' out loud. That is just as bad as his sick performance when the new pope was picked. He played that tape of Hitler while he talked about the new pope. It was sick and he couldn't understand why people were upset with him. He is stupid and sick and I wish WRVA would get rid of him.


51 posted on 07/27/2005 2:00:08 PM PDT by iceskater ("Words are, of course, the most powerful drug used by mankind." - Kipling)
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To: iceskater

I'm done with him completely.


52 posted on 07/27/2005 2:03:56 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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Kilgore campaign email:

Memorandum

To: Kilgore for Governor Leadership

From: Ken Hutcheson
Campaign Manager, Virginians for Jerry Kilgore

Re: New Poll Results / What to Expect Next

On behalf of Jerry and Marty Kilgore and the entire Kilgore for Governor Campaign staff, please allow me say thank you to all of you for the contribution of your time and resources to our important cause. Because of your tireless support, we are winning this campaign and demonstrating to all Virginians that Jerry Kilgore has the experience to lead as our next Governor.

As you know, President George W. Bush campaigned for Jerry last week in McLean, VA. We thought you might like to see what he had to say about Jerry, so we produced a short video clip of his remarks for you to review by visiting this link.

You may have seen over the weekend that a poll conducted by Mason-Dixon showed the Kilgore/Kaine race in a dead heat. This poll flies in the face of everything we have seen -- eight other public polls and our own internal polling -- that show Jerry Kilgore with a clear lead in this race. Everything we see places the momentum squarely on our side. Jerry Kilgore won the first debate, dominated the last fund-raising period and just welcomed President Bush to Virginia. Tim Kaine, meanwhile, lost the first debate, raised only half of what Kilgore raised in June and has completely abandoned rural Virginia. Kaine has even brought in the assistance of liberal heroes John Kerry and Tom Daschle to rally his apathetic base. There is simply no evidence to support the results of this poll.

Other public polls for this race are listed below:

Date Name Results
July 12, 2005 Rasmussen Poll Kilgore 47% to Kaine 41% to Other 4%

June 30, 2005 Survey USA Poll Kilgore 49% to Kaine 39% to Potts 5%
June 2005 Rasmussen Poll Kilgore 46% to Kaine 40%
May 2005 Survey USA Poll Kilgore 44% to Kaine 40%
April 2005 Rasmussen Poll Kilgore 44% to Kaine 36%
March 2005 Survey USA Poll Kilgore 46% to Kaine 36%
October 2004 Richmond Times-Dispatch Poll Kilgore 34% to Kaine 25%
October 2004 Mason-Dixon Poll Kilgore 40% to Kaine 35%


While these numbers bode well, we cannot let up on our efforts - there is still much work to do and we must continue to run as if we were 10 points down. As we all know, the only poll that truly matters is the one on November 8th. We have the momentum and the right message, but we need you to remain focused and energized for the next 105 days.

We can expect the often hysterical and negative rhetoric of the Kaine campaign to only degrade further into the gutter. The negative attack mailings from the Kaine campaign are filling up mailboxes across the Commonwealth, and their rhetoric continues to sound more and more desperate having lost the most recent debate and fundraising report by a 2 to 1 margin. It is safe to say our opponent and his liberal out of state allies like MoveOn.Org, John Kerry and Howard Dean will be working hard in the coming weeks to stop our momentum and to redouble their bitter attacks on Jerry Kilgore

We need you to share this information with your friends and family and encourage them to get involved in the campaign, even if it means just signing up to display a Kilgore yard sign or put a bumper sticker on their car. Encourage them to sign up to volunteer and be a part of this grassroots driven campaign-we need everyone joining in this important cause for our families and for our future. For more information on how to get involved, please visit www.JerryKilgore.com.

http://www.jerrykilgore.com/index.shtml

With individuals of your great character and dedication leading the way, we will be victorious in November and be ready to enact Honest Reform in Virginia.

Last but not least, below is a link to an interesting analysis of the campaign by Jeff Schapiro from Sunday's Richmond Times Dispatch that you might find interesting: Schapiro Article:
http://www.jerrykilgore.com/cgi-data/news/files/131.shtml


53 posted on 07/27/2005 2:17:41 PM PDT by Ligeia (It's time to sign up and help Jerry Kilgore!)
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To: Gabz
I just received an e mail from the Kilgore campaign ( I'm sure many of you also received it )
They are as puzzled by this poll as the rest of us. They said that it does not represent the results from other polls, both internally and externally.

They also said that they are taking the poll seriously, and they are running as if they are 10 points down. That is GREAT news!!!

GO GET EM' JERRY!!!
54 posted on 07/27/2005 3:17:18 PM PDT by GeorgeW23225 (Liberals really aren*t bad people. It*s just that they know so much that simply ISN*T true.)
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To: Ligeia; GeorgeW23225; Gabz; iceskater; Coop

Y'all beat me to it on posting of the email. And make sure you read Jeffy Schapiro's article. Vey telling since he also wrote the article about the poll release...and they ran on the same day.

As for no one understanding the poll, never underestimate the power of the RATS to be in collusion with the media.

I'll tell y'all a story sometime over adult entertainment beverages. It was one time when justice prevailed.


55 posted on 07/27/2005 3:26:50 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands
The RATS are in collusion with the MSM, and I can prove it.

EVERY poll sponsored by NBC Channel 12, and The Richmond Times Dispatch has been PULLED when Kilgore's lead got too large. The very last poll was pulled when Kilgore's lead got to 19 points.

Then, they start ANOTHER poll, and when you go to it, Kaine has a large lead. It seems someone is giving the Kaine Campaign a "heads up" on the new poll.

Currently, Kilgore has a 7 point lead, but when it gets larger, they'll pull it and start all over again. They've even tried changing the positions of the candidates.

Nothing seems to work for poor Timmy Kaine.

hehehehe

P.S.

Do y'all know that Timmy Kaine is a carpetbagger, just like Marky Mark Warner???

Kaine was born in LIBERAL Minnesota, and went to school in Missouri.

Lucky us for inheriting him. UGH!!
56 posted on 07/27/2005 4:07:04 PM PDT by GeorgeW23225 (Liberals really aren*t bad people. It*s just that they know so much that simply ISN*T true.)
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To: GeorgeW23225

The RATS are home. The poll is tightening up. Time to vote again:

http://www.timesdispatch.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=RTD%2FPage%2FRTD_SectionFront&c=Page&cid=1058750344173


57 posted on 07/27/2005 4:09:23 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Yep!! The mindless liberal minnions of the VEA are at it again!!
Time to notify our e mails lists!

Let's do it!!


58 posted on 07/27/2005 4:19:58 PM PDT by GeorgeW23225 (Liberals really aren*t bad people. It*s just that they know so much that simply ISN*T true.)
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To: GeorgeW23225
They also said that they are taking the poll seriously, and they are running as if they are 10 points down. That is GREAT news!!!

That, in my mind, is generally a formula for victory!!!!

59 posted on 07/27/2005 4:38:27 PM PDT by Gabz (USSG Warning: Portable sewing machines are known to cause broken ankles)
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To: Corin Stormhands; GeorgeW23225

You're right about the rats being home..........Bollings huge lead from earlier today has been closed by 5 points.


60 posted on 07/27/2005 4:40:03 PM PDT by Gabz (USSG Warning: Portable sewing machines are known to cause broken ankles)
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