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'Dark Knight' Nabs Biggest Debut Ever
EW ^ | 7/20/08 | Joshua Rich

Posted on 07/20/2008 3:15:21 PM PDT by Borges

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To: Borges

I hated it!


81 posted on 07/21/2008 10:21:02 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: library user

She should have gone into hiding after “Brokeback Mountain”.


82 posted on 07/21/2008 10:23:53 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Future Snake Eater

>> I enjoyed “Superman 2” but it doesn’t hold a candle to “Batman Begins” or “The Dark Knight” or “X-Men” or “X-men 2” or “Spiderman” or “Spiderman 2” or “Superman Returns” or “Blade” or “Sin City.”

I’d put Superman I and II a little higher than you would. Liked it better than X-Men. Better than Sin City or Blade. Possibly better than Superman Returns, Spiderman III, and XMen 2 (though its a close call). Certainly worse than Batman Begins, Spiderman, Spiderman II, and the Dark Knight (which is likely the best of the group). I think I’d rank as follows ...

Top Tier...

Dark Knight
Spiderman II
Batman Begins
Spiderman
Superman II: Donner Cut
Superman Returns
X-Men 2

Middle Tier

Spiderman III
Superman: The Movie
X-Men
Batman (Keaton/Nicholson)
X-Men III
Iron Man
Superman II (Lester Cut)
The Incredible Hulk (Ed Norton, 2008)

Bottom Tier

Fantastic Four
Batman Returns (Keaton/Devito/Pfeiffer)
Fantastic Four II (Silver Surfer)
Superman III
Sin City
Daredevil
The Punisher
Blade
Hellboy
Batman Forever (Kilmer/Carey/Jones)

Horrible

Batman (Adam West)
Hulk (Ang Lee)
Batman & Robin (Clooney)
Catwoman (Halle Berry)
Superman IV

H


83 posted on 07/21/2008 10:38:17 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("You may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas." -- Davy Crockett)
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To: Deb

>> I hated it!

Really? Why? My wife’s not really into this stuff, and she loved it. I have not heard from anyone that hated it.

H


84 posted on 07/21/2008 10:46:22 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("You may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas." -- Davy Crockett)
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To: Hemorrhage

S2 was quite serious in theme. The love story was much more moving than most films about ‘regular’ people.


85 posted on 07/21/2008 10:59:51 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

>> S2 was quite serious in theme. The love story was much more moving than most films about ‘regular’ people.

Actually, I didn’t buy the love story that much partially because I didn’t care for Margot Kidder’s Lois Lane. First, she was obnoxious and irritating — a world-class pain-in-the-ass to Clark Kent. Also, she just was not pretty enough. There is simply no reason a guy that could have his pick of any woman on the planet would fall for an obnoxious woman like Kidder’s Lois Lane (I know, she wasn’t obnoxious to .

Personally, I prefer Erica Durance’s Lois Lane from Smallville. She’s spunky and bull-headed, but she’s got a brother-sister type relationship with Clark (adversarial, but genuinely caring). She’s not obnoxious to Clark, but infatuated with Superman like Kidder. She’s also a knockout to the extent that you can actually see Superman falling for her.

Kate Bosworth was OK, but not spunky enough.

H


86 posted on 07/21/2008 1:04:32 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("You may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas." -- Davy Crockett)
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To: Vince Ferrer; TheWasteLand

I thought that the movie was perhaps, one of the most political movies I have seen in years.

Once you get past the storytelling itself, you end up with the following set of archetypes.

Batman is Order.

The Joker is Chaos.

Two Face is Chance.

I think the movie is making a huge political statement.

Evil must be confronted. Soldiers must fight it.

Chaos is at our door, it cannot be appeased or negotiated with, it needs to be smashed.

Chance is always with you. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

And finally, and most importantly, a real hero never needs to take credit for all that goes well, and accepts the blame for things he didn’t even do in order for Order to persevere.

I could go on and on about the allegories to the War we now fight, from concerns about electronic spying, rules of engagement, a nay-saying press, rendition of prisoners and on and on.

This movie was a huge risk for the Director. Once you peel away the crashes and explosions, it is a parable of the need to stand strong in the face of evil and of self sacrifice in the name of a greater good.

I’m stuned this ever got made in Hollyweird.

Cheers,

knewshound

www.knewshound.blogspot.com


87 posted on 07/21/2008 4:53:07 PM PDT by knews_hound (Why am I here? And why do I have this handbasket?)
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To: knews_hound

Most Big studio adventuire films tend to be fairly clear cut about good and evil.


88 posted on 07/21/2008 7:07:13 PM PDT by Borges
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To: knews_hound

You are soooo right!

I’m just waiting for the rats to whine it puts them in a bad light, or the Muslims.


89 posted on 07/21/2008 7:15:53 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (The world WILL be cleaner, safer and more productive without Islam.)
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To: Eye of Unk

The fact the the enemy was the Joker, and not some stereotype of Hollywood villains, will make it very hard for the usual suspects to complain.

I cannot recommend this movie enough.

Cheers,

knewshound


90 posted on 07/21/2008 7:46:41 PM PDT by knews_hound (Why am I here? And why do I have this handbasket?)
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