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Why Russia Won’t Agree to Peace Without Ukraine’s ‘Fortress Belt’
YouTube ^ | December 9, 2025 | Alex Krainer

Posted on 12/09/2025 6:54:13 PM PST by House Atreides

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To: Bobbyvotes

“Without USA arms Ukraine would have folded in 3 hours.”

Yep, just like 2014 - the West TRICKED Putin.

Now the Neocons have spent most of the past year attempting to trick Putin again - sorry Neocons, Putin isn’t biting this time - he’s going to get what he demands, or he’s going to take half of Ukraine (he’ll leave the Nazi half for Poland to deal with).

Like it or not, Neocons, Putin, and just about everyone else in Russia is TOTALLY DONE with ever trusting you guys again.


21 posted on 12/09/2025 10:52:30 PM PST by BobL (Trusting one's doctor is the #1 health mistake one can make.)
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To: Widget Jr

“ This looks like a fake AI spam channel.”
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I agree…. it looks bogus. It appears to have popped into existence three weeks ago.


22 posted on 12/09/2025 10:58:11 PM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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To: House Atreides
Maybe mods should lock the thread, not delete it?

Need some references for spam for future use.

23 posted on 12/09/2025 11:32:59 PM PST by Widget Jr
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To: Widget Jr

Others are claiming AI in the comments too>>> that his voice is also sped up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQKnNpIzVe8
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More AI here. This time Jeffry Sachs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OYurv0Rqxo


24 posted on 12/09/2025 11:43:38 PM PST by dennisw (There is no limit to human stupidity / )
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To: Widget Jr

Sachs hair has more grey. This looks like Sachs 7 years ago.


25 posted on 12/09/2025 11:44:50 PM PST by dennisw (There is no limit to human stupidity / )
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To: Widget Jr

Here is the normal Krainer in his normal voice>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG5wsPNDN08


26 posted on 12/09/2025 11:49:40 PM PST by dennisw (There is no limit to human stupidity / )
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To: House Atreides

Life is not fair.

Obama/Biden suckered Putin into this war because putin is a moron, like them.

Ukraine is too corrupt to win this war, not enough soldiers doibg the heavy lifting.

They will lose land....as much as putin wants.

Nobody cares.

Putin hopefully will choke on it and die, but that is wishful thinking.


27 posted on 12/10/2025 12:28:38 AM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: BobL

Putin is a stupid thug who is wrecking Russia as a country. He will end up dead in a ditch or in exile.


28 posted on 12/10/2025 1:01:50 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: Bobbyvotes

lol”three hours “

What’s your point, that because Russia has the bigger military…. , that it has the right to do whatever it wants?

so a few Turkish drones, and javelin missiles were able to stop the “2nd largest military”, interesting 🤨

How long would England and Soviet Union survived without massive US aid in WW2?
Side note Russia’s 3 day SVO/SMO/NWO/War is nearing the entire length of the “great patriotic war” and they hold less Ukrainian territory than in March of 2022🤔


29 posted on 12/10/2025 4:36:09 AM PST by blitz128
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To: Bobbyvotes

Unlikely as Europe esp. including Russia are as corrupt, and Russia makes them all look like Boy Scouts


30 posted on 12/10/2025 4:38:15 AM PST by blitz128
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To: BobL

Using the word “trust” in the same sentence with Russia is laughable


31 posted on 12/10/2025 4:41:08 AM PST by blitz128
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To: USA-FRANCE

Islamist Chechen troops where there from the beginning of the 2022 invasion and I think they may have been in the Donbas in 2014.

The Russians are now actively recruiting both Indian and Africans.

Ukrainians may have been Vikings and certainly descended from them.

Trumps is actively pursuing the ‘peace plan’ presented to him by Putin in Alaska, given to Witkoff, presented to Putin as the US plan.

The only plan Putin will accept is the total and absolute surrender of Ukraine. All else is media fodder.


32 posted on 12/10/2025 5:09:03 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: BobL

Like it or not, Neocons, Putin, and just about everyone else in Russia is TOTALLY DONE with ever trusting you guys again.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Putin brining in communist North Korean troops and Chechen Islamic troops to kill Europeans on European soil, is that supposed to make us trust and love Putin?
I’m fed up with his fanatic neo-sovietism and his islamo-commie friends.

We have never trusted our enemies - I presume that’s logical?


33 posted on 12/10/2025 6:07:12 AM PST by USA-FRANCE (Silence against evil isn't neutrality, it's complicity. Oppose the Iran-Russia-North Korea Alliance!)
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To: Petrosius

Ah. Telepathy.


34 posted on 12/10/2025 6:11:13 AM PST by Owen
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To: USA-FRANCE

Russia - Because 11 Time Zones just isn’t enough


35 posted on 12/10/2025 6:14:02 AM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: PIF

There would be some value in defining surrender.

Surrender would be installation of a pro Russia government in Kiev that defines policy of Ukraine.

Anything less than that is not surrender, pretty much by definition.


36 posted on 12/10/2025 6:16:04 AM PST by Owen
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To: Rockingham

“Putin is a stupid thug who is wrecking Russia as a country. He will end up dead in a ditch or in exile.”

More likely for Zelenski at this point.


37 posted on 12/10/2025 6:22:34 AM PST by BobL (Trusting one's doctor is the #1 health mistake one can make.)
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To: PIF

The “peace-plan” that Russia gave to Witkoff is a symbol of crime.

No Westerner could therefore be following such a plan without becoming participant of the crime the plan suggests, and thus becoming a criminal.

Therefore, the White House will not, and can not, follow though on such crime-plan.


38 posted on 12/10/2025 6:37:36 AM PST by USA-FRANCE (Silence against evil isn't neutrality, it's complicity. Oppose the Iran-Russia-North Korea Alliance!)
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To: USA-FRANCE
So now he throws more bodies into the furnace.

Dead men walking.

Russians who know they're being sentenced to die, for a crime Putin committed.
39 posted on 12/10/2025 6:39:25 AM PST by adorno ( )
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To: BobL

I see that you are of the “hate Zelensky” school of international relations.


40 posted on 12/10/2025 6:44:16 AM PST by Rockingham
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