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AI Data Centers Are Wreaking Havoc On Local Communities Across America
The Federalist ^ | 12/05/2025 | Shawn Fleetwood

Posted on 12/05/2025 7:24:50 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 12/05/2025 7:24:50 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This is going to turn several red states blue.


2 posted on 12/05/2025 7:36:03 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot vote our way out of these problems. The only way out is to activist our way out.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
Ugh. I have absolutely no use for AI. It can't be trusted.

3 posted on 12/05/2025 7:49:57 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: SeekAndFind

The GOP should not be on the AI data center side. It’s like the Patriot Act.


4 posted on 12/05/2025 8:01:00 PM PST by alternatives?
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To: ProgressingAmerica

The solution to AI and data centres and any other large energy use operations is to allow onsite miniature nuclear plants and let the grid handle only residential type of energy draws.


5 posted on 12/05/2025 8:01:59 PM PST by Jonty30 (I've been diagnosed as being polemic and there is no cure. )
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To: ProgressingAmerica

“This is going to turn several red states blue.”

I am not sure how you would have that conclusion?

the article is mostly BS

I have been in big data really big datacenters.

I do stuff with AI (on the hardware side)

I work with prototype stuff from OCP all the time.

yes datacenters could probably be built to waste water, but they aren’t.

For example there is a large microsoft datacenter in Redmond up on the ridge, but you would not know it was there, most people don’t

I have had a tour they are very proud of the fact that they only have to run the chillers less than 10 days per year and that sometimes clouds form on the floor but that is very rare.

many newer server machines are natively water cooled, and all the large companies like google meta microsoft are designing their own servers and custom racks some of which have water fittings.

If a datacenter can be self contained and draw no power from the local grid that is the holy grail, cause then they can be put anywhere in the world if you have your own dedicated starlink satellite(s) but in reality you just want something near an internet backbone

Datacenter owners want to use as little power and water as they can to control costs while claiming they are Green.

It takes very few people to run a huge datacenter, most of the time after it is built you need only drones to remove and replace machines and switch out components, but most important Armed Security.


6 posted on 12/05/2025 8:02:28 PM PST by algore
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
Ugh. I have absolutely no use for AI. It can't be trusted.

I am going to have to make a confession here... This is completely my fault along with millions of other people and businesses who have learned how to use AI for fun and to a much more limited extent... profit.

I even bought a very capable mini-PC that I use as an AI model server over my local network and I have been shopping around to get the best deal on remote VPS server time and storage space. Why, because AI is friggin’ amazing once you start to learn about all the possibilities.

One of my favorite past times is throwing prompts at Suno AI which generates your own music in basically any genre that to me is more fun to listen to than the crap that is shoved down our throats by the music industry day after day. Artists my butt. I would rather listen to my own music that Taylor Swift, or worse. I forget the exact numbers, but I believe that Suno generates 800,000 songs a day. I even put up a website with the songs that I generated about my cat! Totally for fun, and of basically no interest to anyone other than myself...

https://teddycat.fun/

But you are right you can't trust the results you first get back from AI, but berating the AI models after they give you bad info is half the fun.

7 posted on 12/05/2025 8:08:47 PM PST by fireman15
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll bet you that over half of the people in Abiline don’t even know that they have one of the largest AI data centers in their town. The ones that do probably love it and wouldn’t change it for the world, as it has increased property values and brought high-wage consumers to their businesses.

I can see though, how if you’ve got a knee jerk political reaction, or this industry is moving your cheese, so to speak, AND if you do not read the article very carefully and just look at the headline, or do any independent reasoning or research at all, that you could get a dopamine hit out of it by making you feel righteously justified and wiser than most, which is the only value I see in the article.


8 posted on 12/05/2025 8:40:26 PM PST by BusterDog
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To: ProgressingAmerica

it’s become a big issue in Indiana. They already stopped three of them. If the republicans were smart, they use the energy issue to destroy the wind and solar arguments of the left and to push for more and more modern nuclear power.


9 posted on 12/05/2025 8:57:02 PM PST by redangus
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

“It can’t be trusted.”

I use AI for a wide variety of analytical tasks. On every single task, I find basic math errors. When I correct it, it replies “Thanks for finding that. Here’s the correct data.” It’s shocking, annoying, and very worrisome.


10 posted on 12/05/2025 9:40:57 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I have no doubt that the Chinese and the Russians are amping up this supposed issue. The energy conservation movement of the 1980 and 2010s nearly cripled energy production here; if it had done much more damage, we would be way behind the curve. There is what you would like to see in an ideal world, and then there is what we have to do to maintain our position in a world with Russia and China. We cannot screw this up by constraining AI. Pedal to the metal on energy and AI.


11 posted on 12/05/2025 10:07:58 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: fireman15

That is really cool and you are right, it is better than what the corporate execs are forcing on people as entertainment.

It is a tool that is going to produce a bunch of creativity in all fields of human endeavor, from entertainment to quantum physics. Like any tool some will use it for silly crap and crime while others use it to advance medicine,industry, etc.


12 posted on 12/05/2025 10:36:11 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: SeekAndFind

The solution is so simple. Just as AI how it can run itself more efficiently using less electricity.


13 posted on 12/05/2025 10:42:45 PM PST by Nachoman (Proudly oppressing people of color since 1957.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
The word “artificial” is a very scary word, whether applied to a recipe ingredient or to intelligence.
14 posted on 12/05/2025 11:16:55 PM PST by Chgogal (The NYT is the mouthpiece of the violent left-wing Democrat Party)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

It’s evil.


15 posted on 12/05/2025 11:45:56 PM PST by Salamander ( Please visit my profile page to help me go home again. https://www.givesendgo.com/GCRRDa)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Don’t worry.
Skynet will be much better.


16 posted on 12/05/2025 11:47:58 PM PST by Salamander ( Please visit my profile page to help me go home again. https://www.givesendgo.com/GCRRDa)
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To: SeekAndFind

All of this for search engines on steroids. What a fraud.


17 posted on 12/06/2025 1:11:46 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (FTL)
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To: Salamander
Yep. You've got that right.

Loudoun County, Virginia used to be one of the reddest counties in the state of Virginia. Dairy farms, corn fields. Solid R.

Now it's filled with Left coast and New York transplants. Data centers everywhere. It's a dystopian nightmare. Row upon row of cookie cutter town houses and strip malls.

18 posted on 12/06/2025 1:35:20 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: fireman15

https://teddycat.fun/

That’s cool! Good job.


19 posted on 12/06/2025 2:37:49 AM PST by KingLudd
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To: SeekAndFind

If some nuclear power generation isn’t brought online fairly soon, AI power stations will create havoc with our bills. Maybe those power stations should be restricted to using their own ‘green’ power supplies.

Electric power companies should have special rates (higher) for those AI installations so our normal rates will not be affected.


20 posted on 12/06/2025 2:59:03 AM PST by ByteMercenary (Election 2020 was stolen by mail-in voting. It should be abolished.)
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