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Expert Warns Charlie Kirk Prosecution Case Threatened by Potential Bodycam, Timeline Gaps
I Stand for Freedom ^ | 10/06/2025 | Noah Stanton

Posted on 10/06/2025 7:05:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: iontheball
First you are labeled a conspiracy theorist, then the term morphs into being a purveyor of disinformation, misinformation, hate speech, bullying or harassment if you dare voice your own opinion on a matter opposed to the official narrative.

Sounds like a description of what happens to those conservatives who express the view that JFK was killed by Oswald, who acted alone. The official line on FR and throughout the Magasphere is that JFK was the victim of a plot orchestrated by the CIA and Oswald was not the killer--even though no one has ever been able to name the "real killer."

41 posted on 10/06/2025 11:53:29 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: FreedomForce

Have you watched all the videos online and listened to ballistic experts or are you just listening to what’s being reported on TV? This whole scenario does not make sense.


42 posted on 10/06/2025 12:48:59 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: brent13a

Im doubtful that a really smart 22 year old wouldn’t know the FBI was going to read those texts. Nobody is going to write up a confession if they are planning to get away.


43 posted on 10/06/2025 12:51:25 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Fiji Hill

You make a great point. Understand that this is the objective of professional assassin teams. Lots of diversions, decoys, misdirections, and chaos, while the real killer slinks away in the background to kill another day. Take the JFK killing and observe the other major assassinations and attempts since and you will see the pattern repeat itself. The killings are social engineering events to move society toward an agenda - not one the people desire but one that those who wield control and power desire. When I look at the political assassination of Kirk, I see the same pattern repeating itself. The theater producers of these events come out of the world intelligence communities and the facilitators are their cohorts in the MSM. The public is like a boat adrift and driven unwillingly in a direction produced by these social engineering clowns. Two things are currently of great concern to me and that are driven by these engineering clowns - the internal rising drumbeat of domestic civil war and the EU Ukraine/Russia war. You can see the tempo of each rising.


44 posted on 10/06/2025 1:43:37 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: Georgia Girl 2

All the videos? No, but i have watched several videos suggesting what you claim occurred. Those theories have been thoroughly debunked by other videos I’ve watched. It’s clear that there was very large front to rear energy transfer from the shot which rules out him being hit from behind. There was massive expansion of his neck (and chest) due to temporary cavitation which was strong enough to break his necklace and send it flying to behind him which suggests he was not shot by handgun round. There was a very pronounced bulge that occurs on his back when he was shot which which may be related to temporary cavitation or possibly body armor stopping a bullet from exiting his back. There’s what looks like a bullet wipe mark that appears on the front of his shirt when he is shot suggesting he was shot from the front. The wound in his throat is not an exit wound. The bullet has been recovered inside his body. Audio analysis also supports a front to rear shot.

The ballistics are unusual but probably mostly unusual because we don’t know the details of the shooting yet. We don’t know what type of 30.06 round was used. Was it lower power than a hunting round? Exactly what bullet design and weight was it? Did it strike body armor on the way in and/or on the way out (body armor designed to stop most handgun rounds can be as thin as 3mm and body armor designed to stop 30.06 can be less than 5mm thick)? Did the bullet fragment after striking him (reports are saying it did)? It’s possible he could have been shot by someone else with a high powered rifle from the front, but there’s no evidence he was shot by someone else. Then there are the truly crackpot theories which claim a bullet is seen on video, low frame rate video with the bullet impossibly appearing as a discrete object rather than a very long streak or the exploding microphone theory also impossible due to the laws of physics. Most of the conspiraciy theories (actually all of the conspiracy theories i’ve seen) are downright silly.


45 posted on 10/06/2025 5:34:23 PM PDT by FreedomForce
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To: Georgia Girl 2

One correction to my previous post. There isn’t armor that thin that can stop 30-06. My source was bad on that.


46 posted on 10/07/2025 2:52:02 AM PDT by FreedomForce
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To: FreedomForce

#1 there was not a large energy transfer front to back. We have a 30-06 rifle similar to the one pictured by the FBI. It would blow you right back out of the chair and the blood and tissue splatter from the exit wound would be all over the place. Sorry to be gruesome but you need to understand that round.

#2 it has been definitively stated by all concerned that Charlie Kirk was not wearing body armor.

#3 you are right about the laws of physics. Based on the leaked account of the official autopsy report middle school math debunks the official explanation of the shooter on the roof. Its simply not possible.

#4 what does jive almost perfectly with the leaked autopsy report is a shot from behind and slightly above Charlie Kirk by a smaller caliber weapon.

If this ever gets to court Tyler Robinson’s legal team is going to bring in forensic experts who will shred this 30-06 theory beyond a reasonable doubt. All you really have to do is show the jury a couple of YouTube videos of Hickock 45 shooting 5 gallon buckets of solid ice with a 30-06 or the guy from Valhalla shooting the neck bones of a steer and then try to imagine poor Charlie Kirk’s spinal column.

This was a professional hit with a smaller caliber rifle or handgun. Maybe Tyler Robinson was used as a distraction.


47 posted on 10/07/2025 10:43:54 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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