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Obamacare Is a Massive Failure. The GOP Shouldn’t Bail It Out
Daily Signal ^ | 10/04/2025 | David Harsanyi

Posted on 10/04/2025 10:33:37 AM PDT by DFG

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1 posted on 10/04/2025 10:33:37 AM PDT by DFG
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To: DFG

Exactly.


2 posted on 10/04/2025 10:39:59 AM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: DFG
[Obamacare Is a Massive Failure.]

ALL ACCORDING TO PLAN

Look at DEMOCRAT Barack Hussein Obama as a Muslim Foreign Agent seeking to destroy America from within and then everything he did, didn't do, dragged his feet on ALL makes complete sense



3 posted on 10/04/2025 10:46:00 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: DFG

this. the Tea Party is correct. repeal obamacare.


4 posted on 10/04/2025 10:49:29 AM PDT by dadfly
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To: dadfly

And don’t fall for the idiotic “repeal and replace”. Let the free market operate.


5 posted on 10/04/2025 11:03:06 AM PDT by con-surf-ative
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To: con-surf-ative

Should all government healthcare insurance programs be abolished, eg Medicare, Medicaid, Tricare etc?


6 posted on 10/04/2025 11:04:46 AM PDT by JSM_Liberty
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To: DFG

BFD, they want to subsidize premiums for insurance that has deductibles that nobody who can’t afford the insurance in the first place can afford.

The whole thing is stupid and needs to be eliminated. Not worth the trouble to keep or fix.

Most of obamacare is a gift to his friends and supporters from medical records to insurance carriers. Sweet deal to have the gooberment pay premiums for insurance that covered parties can’t afford to use.


7 posted on 10/04/2025 11:07:59 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: DFG

I think that Obamacare, it’s legislations, it’s subsidies, it’s advertising, it’s laws, the interest on the money borrowed, have resulted in the single largest portion of the Nation Debt. It has substantially damaged the middle class by driving insurance rates 300% higher.

Saying that about a program that ensures, even with illegals and Medicaid, only 20 million of 340 million people demonstrates the catastrophic failure of government in healthcare. This program should not be further subsidized or saved.


8 posted on 10/04/2025 11:10:12 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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To: JSM_Liberty

Obamacare did not replace those, so that was not the basis for my comment. Obviously military members should receive their promised benefits.

With adequate safeguards that would prevent denial of coverage to older people, I would say government involvement in medical care should be very limited.


9 posted on 10/04/2025 11:17:47 AM PDT by con-surf-ative
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To: DFG

Obamacare raped me of over $50K my last years before my retirement because of the way health insurance was called income.


10 posted on 10/04/2025 11:40:00 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: DFG

Every Democrat leader referred to the subsidies as “a bridge” that was meant to help until the economy rebounded from the pandemic.

I wonder how many homes the democrats bought during that time?.


11 posted on 10/04/2025 11:41:01 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: dadfly

End it now it was deathcare dreamt up by two domestic terrorists, Bill Ayers and Barack Obama to be followed by Gates Covid and mandatory vaccinations. End it NOW.It was step one of depopulation.


12 posted on 10/04/2025 11:47:29 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: DFG
The GOP would be nuts to help them

But they will, eventually. Thanks, Juan McAmnesty, you left us with the turd that can never be flushed.

13 posted on 10/04/2025 11:49:43 AM PDT by workerbee
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Obamacare screwed America- all Americans.Those of us working have what they call Cadillac, I pay $400 a month to say I have insurance, then when I use it I have a $3200 deductible before they pay out 80 percent, and I pick up the 20 percent.

The few of us working are paying for everyone not working.


14 posted on 10/04/2025 11:51:28 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

Come January Trump should call for congress to totally end Obamacare by the end of the year. That gives us 12 months to come up with HIS plan that promises to cover EVERYBODY. Doable? Might not be any illegals around to insure. Make it market-based. Put nurses in charge as they’re the ones who are the caregivers. Let the democrats try to fight them.

There will be fewer McCains in the senate to stop the repeal.


15 posted on 10/04/2025 12:06:10 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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Obamacare is just a Way Station on the way to Socialize Medicine….


16 posted on 10/04/2025 12:38:53 PM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show host to me.... Sting)
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To: DFG

The way to handle health care is through market force.

I believe most hospitals should be split into two competing entities. Those hospitals would no longer be local monopolies. No union should be able to contract with both. Their union contracts should have to expire at least three months apart.

Drug coverage should be separated out from medical service coverage and sold on a national basis. You would pick a hospital cost coverage plan and then a hospital cost coverage plan approved drug plan.

Once drug coverage is split off, hospitals could run hospital cost coverage plans without insurance company middlemen.

Services that are (or could be) rendered on an outpatient basis by individuals might be moved outside of the health care cost insurance system.


17 posted on 10/04/2025 2:12:53 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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One thing that might be done is to split coverage so there are drug plans and hospital service plans.

You would shop for a hospital plan, which would normally be run by hospital systems in most areas.

You would then shop and select a drug plan from the hospital plan website. Drug plans would typically be run by existing health insurance companies. See my profile page for my drug plan proposals by clicking on my name below.

You would pay your combined premiums to the hospital plan.

Your hospital co-pays would typically be the hospital’s marginal personnel costs. It would be pointless to deny you hospital services if your premiums are paid up. You might have to wait around until 3am though to get the service.

Your in-network independent provider (i.e. any provider that bills separately) co-pays might be either 20% or 50% of the total Medicare amount (depending on your plan and service) after paying the deductible, if any.

Emergency services necessarily received out-of-network might be paid for by the hospital plan at the Medicare rate less twice the amount you’d have to pay in-network.


18 posted on 10/04/2025 2:25:23 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: delta7

“a $3200 deductible”

Deductibles should be replaced by co-insurance, in your case to say $6,400.

Insurance companies have more ability to manage charges than sick, desperate people.


19 posted on 10/04/2025 2:32:47 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Brian Griffin
The broad Utopian strokes won't work and neither will market forces unless your plan involves killing a lot of people. Top of my head, DaVita and Fresenius oligopoly since the barrier of entry is near impossible pertaining to penetrate the dialysis industry. The cost of care is high while profit incentives are narrow and slim. Care infusions for multiple ailments. Emergency care and the tons of laws in concerning treatment requirements, costs, along with reimbursements or lack thereof. Technology is spiking at the same time the Federal government subsidized and provided safety nets because treatment costs were sky high.

The only realistic way now is just push for preventive care and conditioning methods starting at a young age. Rationing is coming whether you like it or not. You also have to deal with the electorate. The largest voting bloc in the US, that includes both dems and repubs, love Federal involvement.

20 posted on 10/04/2025 2:47:05 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Not this world but the next. Faith, justice, humility, hope, and most important, agape.)
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