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Climate Change, Control, and the Question of Trust
vanity | September 16, 2025 | CIB-173RDABN

Posted on 09/16/2025 1:48:30 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN

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To: CIB-173RDABN

Interesting you don’t understand a rhetorical comment.

If you want to take it literally, ok. So try to find one prediction that came true, and I’ll make it easy for you - limit to the last 50 years, you don’t have to go through all the climate change predictions throughout the “entire world history.”


21 posted on 09/16/2025 3:21:02 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Gen.Blather
Thanks. If you're interested in a few more:

4. Blacks started capturing other blacks (and selling them into slavery) when Africa experienced horrible mega droughts during the Little Ice Age and started taking over each other's land (IMHO to try to get some more food). Until that point, as Thomas Sowell points out, virtually all slaves since the beginning of time were the same race as their masters.

5. Chattel slavery was abolished here and in England at the bottom of the Little Ice Age even when an argument could be made that it was at the highest demand for slavery. (Crops don't pick themselves, especially when crops are hard to grow to begin with.) IMHO, the Christian abolitionist movement doesn't get enough credit not only for the abolition, but at a time that bucks the trend of abusing others more when even sensible people are desperate.

6. England (and to some degree the U.S.) was able to use the next century to push almost the entire rest of the world to abolish chattel slavery too. Perhaps it was easier because that was during the Modern Warm period.

7. By the way, the Ottoman Empire had millions of white slaves captured from Europe (not just the ones in the loosely affiliated North African Barbary states that us Americans talk about during the last decades of the Little Ice Age who were capturing American ships and making Americans slaves until we created the U.S. Navy and taught them Muslim pirates the FAFO). The North African Berbers had anywhere from half a million to 1.2 million white slaves during the Little Ice Age, almost all of which came from making slave raids directly up into Europe. Those slaves were freed after the Barbary Wars in early 19th century, but the slaves in the Ottoman Empire weren't truly freed up until the Balkan Wars and WW1.

8. When the Ottoman Empire was broken up after WW1 and new nations were created, eventually after WW2 the new nation of Israel was recreated. And unlike the centuries of Ottoman rule, the Jews made Israel an agricultural marvel for the middle east. Was that God? Hard work? Modern Warm Period (crop yields improve, rain patterns more predictable, less deaths by plague)? Combination of the above?

22 posted on 09/16/2025 3:27:33 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: ifinnegan

If you want to take it literally, ok. So try to find one prediction that came true, and I’ll make it easy for you - limit to the last 50 years, you don’t have to go through all the climate change predictions throughout the “entire world history.”


Nah, You win. I lose.

Wish you well


23 posted on 09/16/2025 3:32:21 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Tell It Right

I was aware of the slave history but had not thought to connect it to the weather. It makes sense.

For thousands of years people were peasants, surfs, or slaves. In many societies there were subtle differences, but from our perspective they weren’t much different.

I was thinking just today how lucky I am to have been born in this time and in America. People are so wrapped up in how “bad” this or that is. Can’t afford a home. Gas is expensive, etc. We seldom take time to realize the poorest person in America is better off than probably 95% of all the humans who ever lived.


24 posted on 09/16/2025 3:39:34 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud. Sorry. )
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Please use the term “global warming” as it has been used for many years and is the original term. “Climate change” is not only redundant it is a meaningless made-up expression to appease all the crooks in the scam weather business around the planet. It is long past time to take back the narrative from the left who just makes stuff up fraudulently, thanks!

And Michael Mann should be in prison for fraud.


25 posted on 09/16/2025 3:44:26 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

See what I mean?


26 posted on 09/16/2025 4:38:45 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Gen.Blather

In Europe, when the second to last glacier (Riss) melted about 150,000 years ago, there was a long (~20,000 years) interglacial (Riss-Wurm), which was actually quite warmer than the present time interglacial (Wurm-???).
Humans took advantage of it, and spread North, all the way to Scandinavia.
Then the Wurm glacier hit and people disappeared not only from glaciated area, but even from the no glaciated Central Europe, which turned into cold tundra, not suitable for life of primitive people of that time.
People survived (barely) the Wurm epoch only at the southmost (Spain, Italy, Greece) Europe.

Then, some 11,000 years ago, Wurm glacier suddenly melted and people quickly moved back North!

I am actually wondering, how will they call the next glacial? And present epoch? (Wurm-???)


27 posted on 09/16/2025 5:56:42 PM PDT by AZJeep (sane )
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To: Gen.Blather
I 100% agree. We are truly blessed to live both at this time and in this country.

Now if you're interested in the Bible and slavery, there's something I hadn't thought of until I read some of Pastor Theodore Weld's Bible Against Slavery. I can't remember the micro details, but the cliff notes is that slavery among the Jews, with the rules regarding slavery as set in the Law of Moses, comes down to what in our history would be closer to voluntary servitude. Look at the setting of the price of a slave relative to how many years are left until the Year of Jubilee. And the option at times for the slave to leave, or choose to stay. And if circumcised were even allowed to take part in Passover (contrasted with here in the south the blacks had to go to a separate church service). Plus laws giving other rights to slaves to protect them from violence. Completely differently, by the way, from the much more barbaric version of slavery that was in Canaan before the Jews got there.

Likewise, slavery in the OT was completely unlike the slavery here with the mantra "it's not a person it's property".

28 posted on 09/16/2025 6:29:32 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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