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John Birch Society exposed once and for all! (My title)
Wayback Machine, SamuelBrenner.com ^ | May 2009 | Samuel Lawrence Brenner

Posted on 08/10/2025 12:30:57 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator

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The above is an excerpt of the linked document, a dissertation. I began on page 596 (dealing explicitly with Israel and Zionism), but the section dealing with anti-Semitism as a whole begins on page 556.

It took me literally hours to copy and post this. I am sure the reader will find numerous mistakes in the formatting, though I tried to at least fix some of the more blatant errors. I confess that this was so hard and took so long that simply gave up on transcribing the italics used throughout the text. Most numbers are footnotes (available in the link) while some are page numbers. Mea culpa, but this has been draining enough.

This exposes the Birch Society as Anti-Zionist and anti-Semitic from day one (the belief in a "Zionist conspiracy" is inherently anti-Semitic and especially the charge that Zionism "spawned" Communism).

All FReepers who support Israel and are members of the Birch Society should get out. Their current position is rabidly anti-Israel and this shows how deep the sickness goes.

Please note that the Society's founder Welch, while believing in a "Zionist conspiracy" that "spawned" the Communist conspiracy, was not a Fundamentalist chrstian but a theologically ultra-liberal Unitarian who believed in evolution. Why would such a person be so convinced that every Jewish organized movement was a "conspiracy?"

1 posted on 08/10/2025 12:30:57 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Almost everything the John birch society said has been born out to be factual.


2 posted on 08/10/2025 12:33:23 PM PDT by DesertRhino (When men on the chessboard, get up and tell you where to go…)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

They all started looking real suspicious at him
And he jumped up and said, “Now just wait a minute Jim!
You know he’s lying, I been living here all of my life!”
“I’m a faithful follower of Brother John Birch
And I belong to the Antioch Baptist Church
And I ain’t even got a garage, you can call home and ask my wife!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJrRwTTqm0o


3 posted on 08/10/2025 12:35:09 PM PDT by newfreep ("There is no race problem...just a problem race")
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Since your screen name is Zionist Conspirator, could you please explain to me exactly what a Zionist is?


4 posted on 08/10/2025 12:38:29 PM PDT by Right Brother (I don't really care Margaret.)
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To: DesertRhino

Dispys don’t care


5 posted on 08/10/2025 12:40:35 PM PDT by wardaddy (This forum has seen better days )
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To: Zionist Conspirator
The remaining John Birchers all live in nursing homes and assisted living now.

The J.B.S. were right about so much. They used to put out a magazine about the size of the TV guide, and I used to read it. I can't say that I ever encountered any antisemitism in it.

That said, Israel has one tiny little spot of land in the middle of a desert. It is the homeland for the Jewish people. People can disagree on financial support. But Israel certainly has the right to exist in their ancient homeland.

6 posted on 08/10/2025 12:41:50 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: DesertRhino

The John Birch Society had the correct enemies.


7 posted on 08/10/2025 12:46:22 PM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

JBS has always been pure scum...


8 posted on 08/10/2025 12:49:46 PM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I gave up after the 1,004th paragraph


9 posted on 08/10/2025 12:56:17 PM PDT by Fledermaus ("It turns out all we really needed was a new President!")
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To: cgbg

Just go to the source and thump those Protocols some more /s


10 posted on 08/10/2025 1:01:27 PM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: JadeEmperor

At least you didn’t accuse me of writing the Protocols.

Lol.


11 posted on 08/10/2025 1:02:32 PM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: JadeEmperor

I am making the same offer to AIPAC as I have made to Big Pharma.

Pay me a million bucks and I will gladly shill for my new masters.


12 posted on 08/10/2025 1:05:42 PM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

> The J.B.S. were right about so much. They used to put out a magazine about the size of the TV guide, and I used to read it. <

They also had a toll-free phone number you could call for a short daily commentary. This was well before Al Gore invented the Internet.

Like with your experience, I never encountered any antisemitism there.


13 posted on 08/10/2025 1:07:41 PM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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To: Leaning Right

In the old days I visited their HQ in Belmont, MA.

They were class acts—even when I did not agree with some of their views I admired their courage and determination.

The odds were heavily stacked against them.


14 posted on 08/10/2025 1:10:43 PM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I agree with you, sir or madam.


15 posted on 08/10/2025 1:13:14 PM PDT by silent majority rising (When it is dark enough, men see the stars. Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: Fledermaus

Give him a break Fledermaus. As he said, it takes a lot of effort to overcome formatting, and he put a lot of effort into it, whether anyone agrees with it or not.


16 posted on 08/10/2025 1:15:20 PM PDT by silent majority rising (When it is dark enough, men see the stars. Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
It took me literally hours to copy and post this...

You wasted your time. I didn't take the time to read all of this screed, tut I quickly determined that it's BS. Robert Welch was most certainly not anti-Semitic, did not believe in a "Zionist conspiracy," and never said that Communism was "spawned" by such a conspiracy.

And the JBS was never anti-Semitic and never referred to Communism as a "Zionist conspiracy." Judeophobes who show up in the JBS are quickly zotted.

17 posted on 08/10/2025 1:16:46 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: cgbg

As you probably know, the John Birchers were extremely anti-communist. And that led them to take some rather unpopular views. For example, they mistrusted Eisenhower.

That was kinda goofy. But overall, the Birchers were on the right track. Communism was a huge threat back in those days. And it still is today, under the guise of “democratic socialism”.


18 posted on 08/10/2025 1:18:08 PM PDT by Leaning Right (It's morning in America. Again.)
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To: Leaning Right

The Welch book about Eisenhower was called “The Politician”.

I found it unpersuasive.

Their best work included the first book that exposed the phony baloney Forrestal “suicide”.

Since then David Martin (aka DC Dave—former post here) has written an updated work with additional detail.

No Bircher I knew never made any comments (pro or con) relating to Jews or Israel at all.


19 posted on 08/10/2025 1:22:53 PM PDT by cgbg (It was not us. It was them--all along.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Interesting minutia, and mostly irrelevant. The JBS were anti-communists, and Welch was right about where the UN was heading. He hated it, and rightly so. The UN is The apogee of Jew Hatred in the West today. Welch did not understand how the 2000 years of exile and pograms had hollowed out the biblical faith dynamic of authentic Judaism. The Jews of Eastern Europe saw in atheistic Communism and its concomitant hatred of Christianity a safe haven from persecution. They thought they could keep their cultural affectations and get by. They were wrong. So they wrapped everything up in a bandana and took off; and brought a quasi-religious Marxism to the barren sands of the Negev. There, these young, energetic Zionists established the Kibbutzim on a heady mixture of Borscht, and Blshevism and Bagels. There is a symbiotic resonance between Mark and Allen Ginsburg that goes beyond their grizzly appearance, and it is found in a robust, arrogant antagonism toward the God of their Fathers.


20 posted on 08/10/2025 1:27:45 PM PDT by Torahman (Remember the Maccabees )
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