Posted on 07/30/2025 8:37:23 AM PDT by whyilovetexas111
Build airframes with large fuel tanks for long range that can use two F-35 engines and F-35 avionics and have a cockpit like that of an F-35.
When needed strip an F-35, take an engine out of another, put all in an F-47 airframe, fuel up, have the pilot climb up, and fly off.
I think he meant the mistake was making too few. They were too good so Obama had to kill ‘em.
The F 47 can fly unmanned, but there are cheaper platforms to fly unmanned than the F47.
The USAF needs to decide, not this guy. AFAIK, the F47 will be able to fight alongside/with as many as 15 unmanned ‘aircraft.’ This is enhanced when the right F-35 is part of the strike package.
Pretend you are Ukrainian general.
Tell me combat situation where you would specifically need F-47 to smack Russians.
Typically, if you are bomber pilot, you want to drop your eggs on target ASAP and fly back to base.
Typically, if you are fighter pilot, you want shot missile(s) at enemy plane(s) to knock it/them out of sky.
“the F47 will be able to fight alongside/with as many as 15 unmanned ‘aircraft.’ “
That assumes it can communicate with them.
Why not have a stand-off command aircraft that could say launch a command relay control drone that leaves behind a trailing fiber optic cable extending from a short-range transmitter dropped concurrently with the launch?
Russians control drones using trailing fiber optic cables I understand.
Instead of an F-47 fighting a battle over an enemy airbase bristling with anti-aircraft weapons, the standoff aircraft would be miles away in comparatively low danger airspace.
The first situation would be an F-47 with enough internal fuel to fly from the middle of the black sea to the middle of the caspian sea and back.
This would require tanker support, preferable a stealth tanker.
This would give the Ukrainian Air Force the ability to shoot down Bear Bombers prior to their releasing ALCMs.
Another situation would be F-47s shooting down Su-34s before they can release their guided (and possibly rocket assisted) bombs.
Another possibility, but probably not doable is shooting down MiG-31s before they can release their Kinzhal missiles.
Didn’t take that long to get a B-17 ready to go again the next day
-The U.S. Air Force’s plan to buy “at least 185” F-47 sixth-generation fighters is “dangerously delusional” and inadequate for a future war. -
“at least 185”
You have to set the smallest number of units we will buy to spread the cost of development and tooling to build the jets. That is how the cost of each fighter is set.
If the F-47 turns out to be great, we can build as many more we need and cost per unit will (should) be lower.
Obama really screwed up the F-22 program by not only stop ordering more units but having the tooling destroyed so that it was impossible for anyone from ordering more in the future.
Where would our fighters be engaging with China, aaaall the way across the Pacific? And don’t say Taiwan, we’re not fighting that war.
But it took Orville and Wilbur a lot longer than that.
The F47 is for so-called “near-peer” opponents, meaning specifically, the Communist Chinese. Period.
While it can do air-to-mud, the F-35 is actually better suited for that. The F-16 might even be better. We don’t know yet.
The F-47 can absolutely, by design, communicate with a F-35. The F-35 is able to stay behind the F-47 and its unmanned wingmEn, while the F-47 and its paired drones achieve, or at least attempt air superiority, then air supremacy.
The drones are especially suited for the so-call Wild Weasel SEAD missions.
Once the F-47s do their job, you could send in F-18s all day, along with F-15Cs, Es, and EXs.
We have options that are quite good once the F-47 and its battle buddies are in theater.
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The F-35s can be the standoff platforms, along with B-1s and B-52s even farther back.
The fiber optic model is just one way of upgrading the survivability of drones. There are other ways to overcome the EMF, and RF-based defenses. **IF** the laser defenses get good, AND deployed, then even those have issues. But lasers are RADAR guided to drone targets. So ... you defeat and spoof the RADARs, and victory is yours. It’s a chess match that we are pretty good at, BUT WE HAVE TO FIELD THE GOOD STUFF.
The F-47 brings a lot of friends with it, again whose tope tier mission is SEAD - suppression of enemy air defenses.
In a war with China over Taiwan (a war which I believe will never be fought), how many F-47s will be lost per day, and how fast can they be replaced?
More than 4000 B-17s were produced in 1943 alone.
FOUR THOUSAND. These weapons exist to be destroyed when used properly.
Fortunately, war with China is entirely imaginary.
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