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Zelensky's Gauntlet - Did Ukraine JustDraw the USA andNATO Closer to War with Russia by Targeting Russian Strategic Long-Range BombersCovered by SALT andSTART Treaties?
Conservative Treehouse ^ | 6/2/25 | Sundance

Posted on 06/02/2025 5:55:23 AM PDT by hardspunned

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To: MrRelevant

Ukraine has flat lined in every measurable sector.

They have been walking dead, attacking Russian Nuclear bombers ( like our B52, B1, etc fleet) confirms they are doing NATO’s bidding and a last gasp breathe of desperation.

As Ukraine is ceasing to exist as a country, I fully expect the EU to fall hard with them….the calls from Russia’s citizens to “ delete” Ukraine now has reached an all time high…..so be it…and there is little the West can do about it.

Only a matter of time now.There is no doubt President Trump is fully aware of Zelensky’s betrayal.


41 posted on 06/02/2025 6:33:09 AM PDT by delta7
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To: marcusmaximus

Putin could end the war by leaving Ukraine as a nuclear waste site.


42 posted on 06/02/2025 6:36:36 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: alexander_busek
Were he alive today, he would undoubtedly be backing the Ukrainians.


43 posted on 06/02/2025 6:37:57 AM PDT by tlozo
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To: tlozo

I’d say 100 billion in contributions would equate to: backing Ukraine.


44 posted on 06/02/2025 6:39:07 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: pierrem15; Brian Griffin
How were the drones controlled - satellite or Russian high-speed internet?

I read yesterday that the Ukrainians claimed to have used the Russian cell networks.

Does anyone really expect Ukraine to divulge the exact means they employed? After all: The war is still in progress.

Regards,

45 posted on 06/02/2025 6:39:31 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: hardspunned

Russia has hypersonic multi warhead missiles, and now they have even more reason to begin using them. Let’s pray they don’t decide to slip in nuke or dirty device into any of them.


46 posted on 06/02/2025 6:40:34 AM PDT by SirFishalot
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To: hardspunned
Trump's not a liar: he simply two big mistakes.

First, he forgot or never noticed that Putin is a psychopathic ex-KGB agent who is willing able to manipulate others, especially Trump, who seems to place far too much emphasis on his "personal" relationships in foreign affairs. So Trump's expression of surprise and outrage at Putin's ceasefire lies were probably and unfortunately genuine.

Second, for some reason Trump (like many here) exaggerated the importance of US aid, disparaged Europe's ability to assist Ukraine, and most importantly underestimated the Ukrainian will and ability to keep fighting. This put him in the paradoxical position of reducing US aid to Ukraine while simultaneously making greater demands for Ukraine to make concessions. Unsurprisingly, undercutting your own leverage in negotiations based on false assumptions doesn't work very well.

47 posted on 06/02/2025 6:41:24 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: hardspunned

The only consolation is Ukraine’s fate is sealed, as is the war mongering EU. All financial sectors of the EU is tanking, with Germany the economic powerhouse now in recession since the war and slipping into depression.

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-economy-recession-investment-growth-infrastructure-exports-v2/a-72630057

“ The new German government wants to revive the German economy by introducing an urgent recovery program. However, the crisis is so severe that economic experts see little chance of a rapid upturn.…”


48 posted on 06/02/2025 6:42:40 AM PDT by delta7
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To: alexander_busek
Whether true or not it's very useful: What will the Russians do now? Kill their own cell networks?

Truck traffic near military bases has already crawled to a halt as the Russians try to search every truck.

49 posted on 06/02/2025 6:43:56 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: delta7

German GDP grew last quarter.


50 posted on 06/02/2025 6:44:40 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: alexander_busek

How dare you invoke the name of President Reagan!
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I lived through Regan’s administration, not all palatable. He was the one to mandate taxes on Social Security, taxing Social Security is just plain wrong.


51 posted on 06/02/2025 6:45:13 AM PDT by delta7
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To: hardspunned

Russia attacks Ukraine with its bombers. Ukraine attacks said bombers with drones. How is that provocative on the part of Ukraine?


52 posted on 06/02/2025 6:48:55 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: shelterguy

I have more contempt for that little weasel than I do Putin. I view him as a conniving little thief with very little diplomatic skills.


53 posted on 06/02/2025 6:49:20 AM PDT by kelly4c
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To: delta7

I learned quite a while ago not to idolize any person because absolutely nobody is perfect but so many people get into this headspace that if you really like a public figure you cannot allow any criticism of that figure. That’s the Democrats way of thinking. They will go to extreme lengths to deny what’s in front of their faces, it happens here with Trump, some folks don’t allow even a hint of criticism and that’s pretty unrealistic imo. You can love president Trump (or Reagan) and still realize he has certain flaws, and allow other people that freedom as well.


54 posted on 06/02/2025 6:55:28 AM PDT by kelly4c
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To: Brian Griffin

The bombers were used to launch cruise missiles at Ukraine as I understand things.
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Wrong, the base in Murmansk was hit, none of their bombers were ever used in Ukraine. They are like our own strategic bomber forces, to be used only in the event of nuclear war.

This stinks of NATO( western) involvement, clear and simple. Much like Russia’s strategic southern radar installation hit by the Ukies about a year ago. Russia is not only fighting Ukraine, but NATO…..and looking at the game’s line up and “ players”, my money would go on Russia, especially when China will go to the aid of Russia.


55 posted on 06/02/2025 6:55:39 AM PDT by delta7
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To: hardspunned

The White House claims Trump was not notified.


56 posted on 06/02/2025 6:55:42 AM PDT by packagingguy
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To: pierrem15

Truck traffic near military bases has already crawled to a halt as the Russians try to search every truck.
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You would do well to view all the videos of Russian citizens stopping and inspecting trucks, all across Russia. One video shows citizens discovering one truck and destroying it (setting it on fire)…..for this reason alone, Russia will be victorious….you will also do well to consult history, Napoleon, Hitler, etc…


57 posted on 06/02/2025 7:02:24 AM PDT by delta7
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To: hardspunned

Zelensky/NATO just wasted a lot of weaponry on planes that weren’t going to attack Ukraine. This is another version of the useless Kursk invasion.


58 posted on 06/02/2025 7:02:58 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out here...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck, 1980, Reno, NV)
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To: delta7
Ukraine has flat lined in every measurable sector. They have been walking dead [...] last gasp breathe [sic] of desperation. [...] As Ukraine is ceasing to exist as a country [...]

Your hyperbole sounds familiar.

Regards,

59 posted on 06/02/2025 7:03:40 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: hardspunned
Zelensky to Putin: Please nuke us, sir.

This would be a good time for the USA to walk away from NATO.

60 posted on 06/02/2025 7:03:45 AM PDT by Salman (Avoid foreign entanglements.)
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