JD Vance: Europe Risks “Civilizational Suicide” Without Border Control

The Ingraham Angle ^ | March 15, 2025 | Laura Ingraham

[joesbucks]

I don’t follow that. What’s your take?

[Political Junkie Too]

I thought you followed European free speech and imprisoning political opponents? I thought you were asking to compare Vance's comments about Europe to what was happening here? I thought that's why you made your link in the first place.

Are you making generalizations about Europe without being fluent in the subjects that you are raising?

You can research Romanian elections on your own time and get back to me.

-PJ

[joesbucks]

If the candidates don’t meet the criteria of their laws or their campaigns are being Russian influenced or sympathetic to the Russian regime then I’m skeptical of their canadacy. Even free speech has consequences.

[joesbucks]

However, railing for free speech while seeking to limit it here seems contradictory.

[Political Junkie Too]

However, railing for free speech while seeking to limit it here seems contradictory.

Do you have examples of limiting free speech here that I can research? Forgive me for not just accepting your generalizations; I posted five examples of DoJ harassment of journalists, which you haven't commented on.

Can you provide me with some examples to check?

-PJ

[joesbucks]

Just the threat Trump made at justice.

[Political Junkie Too]

Then he's just trash talking to his opponents.

I think we've heard much worse from the elected Democrats about him, both when Trump was out of and in office.

It was worse when Trump was out of office and the Democrats had majority powers. Now that Trump is in office and talking smack to Democrats, suddenly its a chilling effect on free speech?

I'm not buying it.

-PJ

[joesbucks]

Then why say it. Especially at Justice? That isn’t a red meat rally. I used to think it was trash talk. Not any longer. And I don’t care whether it’s from the right or the left. It’s dangerous.

[Political Junkie Too]

It's not dangerous, it's just talk.

What's dangerous is putting it in a memo and sending it to the FBI, just like Garland did with the school board meetings.

-PJ

[Political Junkie Too]

Putting it in a memo with government letterhead.

-PJ

[joesbucks]

Let’s say gor grins and giggles he follows through. What say you then?

[Political Junkie Too]

I'm not playing this game. I'm staying in the here and now.

I don't mind a good hypothetical, but I prefer them to be agnostic and not tied to specific people and specific actions.

Unless we're talking about election scenarios.

-PJ

[joesbucks]

Oh you’ll rationalize and support it.

[kiryandil]

joescucks is going to poop himself when he reads the news about the autopen “pardons” by Old Senile Joe...

[joesbucks]

https://www.newstatesman.com/international-politics/2025/03/the-purge-of-american-liberty

[Political Junkie Too]

What am I supposed to glean from a progressive British magazine?

-PJ

[joesbucks]

Information. Even Rush cited NY Times articles. Trump recently cited a favorable liberal CBS poll. Closing your eyes and putting your fingers never turns out well.

[Political Junkie Too]

I don't mind the information, I just want to know what their bias is.

-PJ

[joesbucks]

I would guess with Rush and Trump the bias is known. Except when it helps them.

[Political Junkie Too]

Whatever. There is reading the news and then there is reading the opinions.

I get enough of both over time to consider my eyes open.

-PJ