Posted on 02/18/2025 11:49:49 PM PST by Morgana
Often theres a reason why people cant have a bby. Sometimes you just wait too long. And yes it is their fault if they wait too long, poor planning on their part. Adopt, there are plenty of kids needing parents who want a child.
Sometimes it’s not what but how that is the problem.
“Often theres a reason why people cant have a bby.”
Like too many abortions. You all have not noticed the rise in fertility clinics in the last 35 years? You have not wondered why?
This conflicts with the Hyde Amendment.
Most IVF babies are killed.
It’s bad.
It would be better to have adoption reform.
Because it will result in the deaths millions of surplus babies, who do not get to grow, unless the technique changes. And the surplus humans will be too great a temptation to monetize the babies, to turn the live fetuses into commodities to be bought, sold, and traded in part or in whole.
Not hard to see where this will lead.
Increased maternal age (or wannabe maternal age) is most of it. Maternal age has increased a lot - doubled or tripled in women over 30 and over 40. Other causes can be abortion, STDs, drug use, etc, but the massive increase in age at time of birth seems sufficient for the bulk of it.
More babies the better, by any means necessary. The times are getting desperate.
Other issues with age of the mother are birth defects and other health issues. And not often mentioned is paternal age. Not as powerful a factor but its definitely a significant issue.
I wonder how this maps to autism and ADHD rates, etc.
My version of a communist government would designate all colleges/grad schools as breeding facilities. Get those kids out before the parents are 30. Extended education and career starts are unacceptably delaying breeding.
Maybe if we did IVF without slaughtering the human embryos we didn’t like, pro-lifers and anyone with a shred of conscience wouldn’t have as much of a problem with it.
Then there would just be the throuple aspect of the husband-doctor-wife conception triad, and the total unnaturalness of it all. Why does anyone need to artificially make babies when there are so many already made in need of adoption, or at least assistance? (And there would be so many more if as a society we stopped aborting, buggering and contracepting and treating the biological clock like it’s been fact-checked by Snopes.)
Jesuit flunky chimes in - in favor of legions of dead/frozen humans.
You’re certainly not remotely Catholic any longer - are you even Christian?
Christian Brothers on the whole, only a bit of Jesuit.
I am biased towards babies. In every difficult case like this there is a compromise of something. Choose your parth to perdition. If there are at least babies down one path, I am for that.
Problem:
1) Some people don’t get married until later. It’s not their choice that they *waited too long*. What’s the better option? Immorality and pregnancy out of wedlock?
2) the adoption industry is basically trafficking inhuman flesh. MY son and d-i-l have been trying to adopt and aside from the fact that there just aren’t a lot of babies up for adoption, the ones that are are usually born crack addicts. Healthy people responsible people are not giving their babies up for adoption. And no, there are not *a lot*.
It’s only natural to want a child of your own bloodline - I have no issue with making it more possible.
As we should. But beyond that, this is not a matter for Trump to wade into via executive order.
Equivalent to giving a stipend to moose limb families to pay for female circumcisions.
Trump needs to undo this pronto.
It is as ghastly as plain old abortion.
Obviously Trump needs more and better Roman Catholic advisors.
Unless of course he is flipping yet again on his position on abortion.
This kind of thing is just infuriating. An unforced error. Trump needs to stop congratulating himself and start thinking.
What do you want to reform about adoption?
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