Posted on 10/02/2024 5:25:49 AM PDT by Sam77
frogjerk wrote: “How about even 10% effective? These COVID-19 vaccines aren’t even that.”
Prove it.
LOL! You're still dragging out that retarded canard. The frankenshot is as far from effective and safe from a real vaccine as can be.
It's like saying, not mode of transportation is 100% safe as if to compare a skateboard to taking a passenger train.
Here's your frankenshot: 
I just left the VA clinic not long ago, and a man came in for his covid shot. He’s had multiple.
They had to change the definition of vaccine just to call this a vaccine.
Well, it just proves (YET AGAIN) that for Liberals, it doesn’t have to make sense
For them...it’s not even MEANT to make sense. This way they can make it up as they go along!
Proof of what?
That the "vaccines" are experimental? They are.
That they aren't vaccines at all? They aren't.
That they aren't effective? They aren't.
That you cannot prove that they prevent "severe illness", hospitalization, and/or death? You can't, and they don't.
And let me explain something to you, since you, like many others, like to play this game of calling people "anti-vaxxers". No, most people aren't "anti-vaxxers", but they are anti-experimental/untested/unproven/ineffective/government-coerced/unnecessary/utterly bullsh*t "COVID" "vaccines".
And apart from their outright lying about the safety and effectiveness of the "vaccines", they were scaring or coercing people into getting them, to "protect" them from a virus which poses almost no actual threat to them. Here's a question for you: what is the average age of "COVID" "victims"? What is average life expectancy? How do those two numbers compare?
Most of the people under 80 who died of "COVID", were either manifestly unhealthy to begin with, or were killed by the criminal "COVID protocols" in the hospitals.
Front Line Doctors has protocols for the vaxxed, and long COVID (I think).
I haven’t researched this for validation, but Dr. Bryan Ardis: Shocking Therapies for Treating COVID discusses among other things that nicotine is not addictive and blocks the receptors for COVID, colds, and flu. He claims to wear 1/6 of a nicotine patch as a preventive measure.
We’re older than you, had COVID, and got over it in a month or so. My wife tried to bike 5 miles during recovery and had to stop and lie on the grass after 3 miles. The last 3 months we’ve biked 1,200 miles including 3 rides of 50-miles, all on less efficient hybrid bikes.
You DON’T have to put up with “long COVID”, but you will have to keep digging, researching, adjusting your diet, and experimenting. Paraphrasing a TV show, “The cure is out there.”
mRNA is potentially a trillion dollar market - the MSM isn’t going to say one word that diminishes their chances of getting a cut. Even if they are forced to make a half-hearted admission that the beta version of mRNA for COVID didn’t quite work as intended.
I am trying to get into a Long Covid clinic in Fort Wayne, Indiana but so far I've not received any phone calls from them. The only other LC clinic is in Cleveland, Ohio, and they tell me "good luck getting in there."
I've bookmarked the link you provided and I'll check that out. Truthfully, I have become frustrated with this as I thought it would start dissipating by now, but it keeps coming back on me. It hit me again in mid August and that's when I went to my local doctor to get a referral at the Fort Wayne location.
It's interesting that you should mention nicotine patches. There was a posting here on FR referencing a video talking about the use of those for Long Covid. In that video, he said that everyone who used the 7.5 MG patch for 6 days was cured within 9 days.
So I went and bought some and I tried that (but only for 3 days) and at first I didn't notice a difference. If anything, I felt strange, weird, but nothing else. Then I noticed that I did feel a bit better. So I tried them again for 3 days, and I felt a bit better. So I'm going out today and getting some more and I'm going to try them for 6 days straight and see what happens.
Just “Define what these elite lefties mean re effective.”
CNN did the meme.
It’s not happening;
Yes, it’s happening but only a little bit;
Well yes, it is happening a lot;
It’s a good thing it is happening.
(Eventually culminating in an article by David French titled “The Conservative Case for Killing Citizens with Covid Vaccines; Those People Deserved to Die”.)
Secondly, it is not for me to prove ineffectiveness it is to the creators of the vaccine to prove its effectiveness. It started out as 100% (which in itself is a totally ridiculous claim) then it fell to 95% to 90% then to 80% and then eventually less than 50% and then you needed a booster and then another booster and then yet another...Can you not see the pattern?
Now you will state, but these are variants...and I understand that but that is not how this was sold to the public. It was sold that you are killing my grandma and you will be cancelled from work or life if you don't get vaxed or even question it.
Another thing...so, what are the variants in the chicken pox virus or polio or viral meningitis or any other number of truly deadly diseases and why are their not boosters for those in most cases?
Strange.
I can name one that’s effective zero percent of the time though.
Good point but the recovery rate was what, 99% before the vaccines were released? That’s a high bar for a vaccine to jump over.
In the twisted leftist minds, if you die, then you can't get Covid, hence SUCCESS!
Sicon wrote: “Proof of what?”
“That the “vaccines” are experimental? They are.”
The vaccines are fully approved which means they are not experimental.
“That they aren’t vaccines at all? They aren’t.”
Yes, they are vaccines despite the claims of the anti-vaxxer fanatics.
“That they aren’t effective? They aren’t.”
The vaccines have saved over 14 million lives. That’s very effective.
“That you cannot prove that they prevent “severe illness”, hospitalization, and/or death? You can’t, and they don’t.”
And, you can’t prove the vaccines harmed one individual. We can prove that they saved lives.
Nor can you prove that any “were killed by the criminal “COVID protocols” in the hospitals.”
cyclotic wrote: “I can name one that’s effective zero percent of the time though.”
The covid vaccines saved over 14 million lives.
Riiight.
"Yes, they are vaccines"
Only in the sense that they meet the new definition of "vaccine" created in 2021. Here is the old definition of "vaccine". You know, the definition that everyone knew and which had been around for decades:
"A product that produces immunity therefore protecting the body from the disease. Vaccines are administered through needle injections, by mouth and by aerosol."
And here is the "new" definition of "vaccine", as of 2021, when the CDC decided it needed to be changed for some reason (like making it legal to push the experimental, untested, ineffective clot shot on everyone):
"A preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but some can be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose."
In case you don't get it, here's what changed:
*A vaccine is no longer a “product” but instead is a “preparation”
* It no longer directly stimulates the immune response, but is used to stimulate the system
* It does not produce immunity
* It stimulates the immune response against diseases, not against a specific disease
* It no longer protects a person from the disease
"The vaccines have saved over 14 million lives."
Prove it. You literally cannot.
"you can’t prove the vaccines harmed one individual."
I guess you've never heard of VAERS.
"We can prove that they saved lives."
Who are "we"? And yes, by all means, PROVE that the "vaccines" saved a single life. Again, you literally cannot.
You are absolutely the biggest vaccine shill on FR. And once again, you have to throw "anti-vaxxer" in there, because that's about all you've got.
Three. I died after every one of them but I got better.
They ARE effective. People are dying. As planned.
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