New bodycam footage reveals officer’s rooftop confrontation with would-be Trump assassin

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[cgbg]

Agreed that firing anywhere is a real bad idea—except when you have reason to believe nobody is responding to your comms with urgency.

Then it is time for the “crazy” to become the last resort.

“Doing nothing” is the very worst option.

[cgbg]

OK—but if you are hysterical aren’t you screaming into your radio?

I know I would be—screaming over and over and over and over....

“Shooter on the roof. Get everybody off the stage.”

I would be screaming it so loud they could hear it a hundred yards away—until somebody on the other end said “Confirmed—subject off stage.”

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but if you are hysterical aren’t you screaming into your radio?

 

Not necessarily - there are multi levels of hysterics, where people either freeze and do nothing, or flip and try to do everything. There may have even been an assumption that some one else was expected to be screaming into a radio and not them. Funny how that works. Or not so funny when people are trying to deliberately harm you.

 

 

[wildcard_redneck]

"How many times have you climbed up a ladder, then climbed off the ladder and onto the wall, or roof, at the top, while someone with a firearm shot at you as you come over the top, and got your footing on the wall/roof?"

The useless, well-pensioned enforcer, who was there to profit the President, ran like a coward for 100 yards.

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[bitt]

ALSO

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/08/breaking-new-bodycam-footage-shows-police-officer-being/

[unread]

No sound at the start of the video.. Someone said that was during the firing of the shots..

How do we know this wasn't staged after the fact.. There's no view of the crowd anywhere to be seen, even from the top of the building...

Perhaps the CYA program is in full swing..

[Vendome]

Fascinating that the local PD had cams but, Sheriff didn’t.....supposedly

Butler County Sheriffs Deny Wearing Body Cams During Trump Assassination Attempt

https://countylocalnews.com/article1/2024/07/18/butler-county-sheriffs-no-body-cams-on-responding-officers-no-footage-of-trump-assassination-attempt/

[EVO X]

Thanks for posting. The video shows there was no ladder allowing the murderer access to the roof at that location. The ladder was later placed by LE to gain access to the roof..

[Pilsner]

ran like a coward for 100 yards.

Too bad Trump didn't have someone like you there.

[wildcard_redneck]

He did not protect and he did not serve - he ran.

[SteveH]

there were two fundamental problems here:

1. the comms between the two teams (local and SS) were not adequately functional
2. an unfriendly (crooks) held the high ground (roof)

either one of these factors makes this a dangerous, non-textbook situation. the local police were placed under conditions that never should have been allowed to happen. these problems are (imho) serious leadership failures. such leadership failures naturally result in confusion and delay at lower levels.

one can’t just “do something.” the something could be dangerous. in particular, shooting in the sky can hurt someone. i think the confusion arises from old cowboy movies in which warning shots were common. warning shots might have been OK in the 1870s wild west in rural areas where the population was sparse and there were no radios and no lawyers. in modern day pennsylvania, i cannot find that it is illegal, but what if the bullet falls on someone and injures them? can they sue for damages (if they survive)? would one really want to be responsible for such an injury if it happened as a result of one’s warning shot? warning shots are illegal in some other states.

[central_va]

Instead of screaming fire 10 rounds into the air. Even the corrupt incompetent SS would take action.

[central_va]

I think they must have gotten Broward County rejects.

[central_va]

one can’t just “do something.” the something could be dangerous. in particular, shooting in the sky can hurt someone.

NO.IT.CANT.

A bullet fired straight up on Earth, assuming there's no wind, might still be able to reach a maximum height of around three kilometers (about 10,000 feet), and will then fall back down to Earth. However, just like a human skydiver only accelerates for a few seconds before reaching terminal velocity, the air resistance acting on the bullet will prevent it from reaching speeds even close to muzzle velocity ever again.

Instead, a falling bullet comes back down with a speed of only around 150 miles-per-hour (241 kilometers per hour), which is just 10% of the speed it was fired with. Because of how energy works (proportional to your speed squared), a bullet that falls from high in the air only possesses 1% of the energy of a bullet newly fired from a gun: the equivalent of a brick dropped from a height of just 50 cm (about 20 inches) off the ground.

[SteveH]

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Bullet-falling-from-the-sky-kills-Houston-man-5989581.php

[central_va]

Hey Barney Fife, A few rounds fired in the air before old flat face began shooting would have saved lives. That has to be balanced against the 1,000,000:1 chance that maybe possibly someone in the woods around that venue may be hit by a very spent bullet traveling at speed too slow to break the skin. YOU MAKE THE CALL YOU FOOL.

[SteveH]

a few rounds fired in the air would have attracted everyone’s attention including the SS CSTs and trump. trump would have held his gaze steady, giving crooks a static target to fire at. alternatively, the SS CSTs might have initiated counterfire on the local LEO shooter mistaking him for an assassin in an LEO uniform (since there was most likely no preset agreed upon protocol which included shooting in the air).

(and you are welcome for having proven your previous contention wrong in about one minute’s worth of research.)

[SteveH]

and no need for personal invective. that way we can let our focus remain on the topic, not on each other.

[bgill]

A split second is hardly much of a confrontation.