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Seattle Mandates $4.99 Fee On Uber Eats 'To Help Drivers', RESULT: Deliveries Crash 45%
Mish Talk ^ | 06/26/2024 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 06/26/2024 10:50:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: HIDEK6

obama tried once.
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One was health insurance the other is lunch but both no business of government to control.


41 posted on 06/26/2024 2:56:29 PM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

If it isn’t real then they should end letting people post fake tips, paying in advance isn’t a tip anyway, it is telling someone what you will pay them to deliver your package to you, like the USPS or Fed-Ex.


42 posted on 06/26/2024 3:00:00 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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"paying in advance isn’t a tip anyway, it is telling someone what you will pay them to deliver your package to you, like the USPS or Fed-Ex.

Exactly. But hear me out....

The pre-tip feature is a way for customers to induce drivers to accept that order for pickup. Let's say someone is craving chips and guacamole from Chipotle, and it is a 20 minute drive, 8 miles. Now the driving fee is solely distance based, and the suggested tip on a $5 order may be 1$. So the total amount a driver would normally be offered for this order might be calculated at $4.00. And no driver is really going to want to accept that order.

So, the customer has an opportunity to add an additional incentive up front by promising a $6 tip. The pickup is now for $10, and a driver may well accept that. What too often happens is that the driver accepts the offer expecting $10, but after the pickup, the customer has the ability to reduce the tip - supposed to be just for bad service but some customers abuse this - and zeros it out. So now, the pickup that was supposed to pay $10 now only pays $4, and the scummy customer is laughing because they pocketed the promised tip themselves.

That's a bad system. However, the customer having the chance to offer that "pre-tip" is a good idea because it essentially is freedom of contract. Suppose you've ordered $150 worth of food from a decent restaurant, and don't want it getting cold waiting for a driver to accept the order. So, you offer an extra $20 for the order to be picked up, which will happen very quickly once it gets posted for drivers. You get your food dast, driver may have made $40 total, and it's a win-win.

Alternatively, you could just not call it a "tip" anymore and make it irrevocable, but that would screw the drive in terms of taxes and also reward bad service. That's why simply posting the percentage of times a given customer (and yo don't know their nes or anything) paid the promised pre-tip would be a fair solution.

43 posted on 06/26/2024 3:14:59 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Well, a qualitative rating like that would be better than the quantitative rating by percentages that you first mentioned. I personally wouldn’t want delivery drivers rating me at all, but I have never used one of these food delivery outfits anyway (and don’t plan to), so it doesn’t matter. I don’t think they’d come out here in any case.


44 posted on 06/26/2024 3:24:03 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

I understand it and have read about it a number of times, but to me it is a stupid system that very much fits into the constant mistakes and misdirection’s of the modern era, and some of our current population, a system that needed repair before it hit the market.

You did a very good job of explaining it though.


45 posted on 06/26/2024 3:26:14 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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