Posted on 03/01/2024 6:42:40 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Climate change is part of the regime’s game plan. So is gun control and other leftwing policies. Going after the Unpiarty on one front but collaborating with them on others shows that they either don’t really understand the deep state or aren’t really interesting in defeating it.
Good to see that Free Republic's dwindling band of Birthers are as full as ever of their conceit that they are ever so much smarter, ever so much more knowledgeable about the U.S. Constitution, than every single member of multiple preceeding generations.
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That is my favorite Birther Tale.
Dad was a Brit at Chet’s birth.
This wasn’t a “thing” until 2008.
Go fly a kite, beer boy.
It "wasn't a 'thing'" until 2008, because until 2008, American Citizenship was regarded as binary. Citizens were natural born, or naturalized. Then geniuses like Orly Taitz began claiming that citizenship, like gender to modern leftists, comes in many flavors.
If that is correct, then Republicans got Chester Arthur and Charles Curtis elected Vice-President, Arthur becoming President, and nominated for President Charles Evans Hughes, and Barry Goldwater, all in violation of the United States Constitution. Four times, according to Birthers, the Republican Party nominated a guy the Constitution said was not eligible, to be on their Presidential Ticket. Four times, according to Birthers, the Democrats did not protest when the Republican Party nominated a guy the Constitution said was not eligible, to be on their Presidential Ticket -- not even when the Republicans won!
So, go on, explain how that happened. Because either you, and Orly Taitz, are Wylie E. Coyote grade super geniuses, whose keen insights into, and understanding of, the United States Constitution, puts ever member of multiple generations to shame, or, you are pathetic crackpots.
I have reached my conclusion. Other Freepers will reach theirs.
Oh, let us not forget John McCain. Some Birthers, I don’t know if you were one, claimed he was not an NBC because he was born in the Panama Canal Zone, in 1936, before Congress passed a law making children born to military personnel stationed abroad citizens. To be fair, that issue was raised in 2008.
The PCZ, when we were in peaceful control of it, from the start by the full agreement of the government of Panama (that is, not in hostile armed possession thereof, which might change the calculus), was no more fertile than any given U.S. territory in terms of bearing U.S. NBC fruit.
In other words, utterly barren.
Not that it really matters, therefore, but Senator John McCain was most likely not even born in the PCZ.
Instead, and a nod given to the apparent lack of unequivocally authoritative formal documentation of this fact, McCain’s mother most likely gave birth to him in nearby Colón Hospital, in Colón, Panama.
Hence: Panama John McCain
“...all in violation...”
You said it, not This Guy.
The original meaning of a term in the U.S. Constitution is not subject to change based on later-occurring Constitutional violations, however many or few.
This Guy is of the tentative opinion, by the way, that the results of the January 6th counting of the Electoral College votes sanates non-NBCs for the purpose of their upcoming terms as POTUS or VPOTUS (akin to Supplied Jurisdiction). Hence our system is stable and not subject to being thrown into chaos by, for example, a belated discovery of a belated naturalization record (such as Chet’s dad’s, dated 1840 in New York State).
“...Congress passed a law...”
...pursuant to its power to create an uniform Rule of Naturalization.
Emphasis on “naturalization”.
McCain was a naturalized U.S. citizen.
Have you noticed that there is not and has never been a U.S. statute covering the case of those born in the United States to parents who were themselves U.S. citizens.
And why would there be?
There is no need, as they come by their citizenship naturally.
These are our NBCs—usually about 70 percent of the total number of U.S. citizens at any given time.
You are quite correct. My grandfathers, born in the US to alien parents, were registered for the draft in 1917.
Their Department of War draft documents had three and only three checkboxes for citizen status: natural born, naturalized, or alien.
Both men, in two different states, were classified as natural born.
And there were literally millions of children born in New York and Boston between 1880 and 1920 to alien parents. There is no contemporary record of any attempts to mass-naturalize them, if a single one was ever naturalized by a court I would be shocked.
And whatever happened to Orly Taitz, guru of the Birthers? Is she slinging hash in a Waffle House somewhere?
Arthur was born in 1829.
His father was naturalized by a New York Court in 1840.
Arthur was therefore a British Subject until 1840, and, being a minor, became a U.S. citizen by way of his father’s naturalization.
This isn’t hard, P.
Arthur was naturalized along with his dad.
By definition, pursuant to the Constitution, anyone whose citizenship depends for its legitimacy on a current (or future) act of Congress is or was naturalized.
The 14th Amendment is a glorified naturalization statute. If you are forced to point to the 14th Amendment to prove U.S. citizenship, you are a naturalized U.S. citizen. In other words, if you are claiming “birthright citizenship” pursuant to the 14th Amendment, you are claiming birthright naturalization.
Tulsi Gabbard knows she can’t even claim 14th Amendment birthright citizenship. How on earth can Tulsi Gabbard nevertheless claim to be a natural born citizen of the U.S.?
U.S. territories belong to the United States, but strictly speaking they are not part of the United States. The Philippines eventually became independent—which native-born Philipinos were ever U.S. NBCs in your book? Are any of them still able to run for or hold the office of POTUS?
I understand your Birther Beliefs. Anyone capable of reading a bumper sticker can understand you Birther Beliefs.
I asked you to explain how, if your "I don't have to pay taxes to the Internal Revenue because I live on the coast" reasoning is correct, and obviously so, so many generations of Americans were too stupid to "figger it out" before 2008?
“TYSON, you nuts?! That guy’s a leftist raving loon!”
I haven’t seen that. A link would help if “he doesn’t pass conservative muster”, as I stated as a caveat.
He’s all over YouTube, so maybe convince him to run third party?
Tom Fitton (Judicial Watch) has good “presence” and knows where all the Dims’ bodies are buried. No opinion?
I’ll say it again: if the Dims pick Michelle at their convention, IT’S ALL OVER...!
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If one continually lives in a state of mortal sin, one’s intellect will progressively darken over time.
Perhaps that has been the problem, on a societal scale.
“I understand your Birther Beliefs. Anyone capable of reading a bumper sticker can understand you Birther Beliefs.”
Yet you can’t seem to grasp why they are the ones that best accord with nature.
The NBC rule must have true discriminating power. Wake John Jay out of his slumber, and he’ll tell you this is true. None of what you say suggests that you are in favor of an NBC rule with true discriminating power.
Instead, you appear to be in favor of the pathetically non-discriminating Mark Levin-style rule (which Levin was advocating circa 2013 when he and his family were plainly ‘all-in’ for Cubamerinadian Ted Cruz and getting ready to push Cruz’s ill-fated POTUS campaign down our throats):
NBC = Anyone, born anywhere in the world, other than those born overseas to two non-U.S.-citizen parents.
This way, this unnatural way, lies madness. Why war against logic?
Trump’s VP pick is very important because with Trump age 77 there is a good chance he might die in office of natural causes (let alone the left’s penchant to kill him) and the VP could very likely become President. I don’t want somebody that leftist to become President or I would vote for Biden.
I do not think Trump will pick her.
Trump will pick someone that will be a) loyal to him and b) not upstage him and c) not controversial with GOP.
If Birther Blather is correct, how is it that everyone, in both political parties of the times, got it wrong until 2008? Answer that. No evasions. Answer that question.
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