Posted on 10/26/2023 11:28:49 AM PDT by shadowlands1960
On the one hand I agree this needs further confirmatory sources.
On the other, I would be very surprised if the FBI didn’t have multiple undercover operatives trying to take down President Trump.
Sorry, I’m not buying it.
I think there’s a lot of BS to this. But all accounts, Mark Meadows was a loyal chief of staff to Trump.
"If this proves true, Trump 47 should dissolve the FBI and start over with a new, severely restrained national police force."
As a side note to your post, please consider the following.
The “national police force” is constitutionally restrained. However, Democratic and Republican Trump-supporting patriots need to do the following to make it work again since constitutionally restrained federal involvement in domestic violence is now wrongly being ignored imo.
First, the drafters of the Constitution did not want the untrusted federal government to dream up excuses to justify sticking their big noses into the affairs of the sovereign states. So they constitutionally required the feds to stand down to domestic violence unless a state's popularly elected leaders formally request federal police assistance to help stop the violence, evidenced by the Constitution's Article iV, Section 4 (4.4).
"Article IV, Section 4: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence [emphases added]."
Note that Justice Joseph Story, a respected constitutional expert, had pointed out that the drafters of the Constitution had made 4.4 because they didn't want the federal government that they established, but never trusted, to dream up any excuse to stick their big noses (my words) into the affairs of the sovereign states.
”§ 1819. It may not be amiss further to observe, (in the language of another commentator,) that every pretext for intermeddling with the domestic concerns of any state, under colour of protecting it against domestic violence, is taken away by that part of the provision, which renders an application from the legislature, or executive authority of the state endangered necessary to be made to the general government, before its interference can be at all proper [emphasis added]. On the other hand, this article becomes an immense acquisition of strength, and additional force to the aid of any state government, in case of an internal rebellion, or insurrection against its authority. The southern states, being more peculiarly open to danger from this quarter, ought (he adds) to be particularly tenacious of a constitution, from which they may derive such assistance in the most critical periods.” —Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, Article 4, Section 4.
So other then constitutionally clueless state government leaders rolling out the red carpet every time the feds take charge of domestic crime cases without constitutionally required state authorization, hopeful Trump 47 should require the national police to respect 4.4.
Getting back to what hopeful Trump 47-supporting patriots need to do to make 4.4 work, they need to primary all state and federal lawmakers and executives up for reelection in 2024, except for MTG, Gaetz & Company, Jordan (and others?), replacing them with patriot lawmakers who will actually do their constitutionally enumerated duty to make sure that federal police wait for a state to request federal assistance in stopping violence before supporting the state in doing so.
After all, lawmakers and executives continue to show that they do not have the patriotism and leadership skills necessary to find legislative support for effective remedies for unconstitutional government policies.
As a side note to this post, consider that probably the main reason that we hear media complaints about the electoral college is the following.
The electoral college is now the only thing stopping the corrupt, constitutionally undefined political parties that have pirated control of state and federal governments from permanently establishing a puppet presidency that will unquestioningly sign unconstitutional taxing and spending bills into law.
And the FBI still has nothing on Trump?
If Meadows conspired with the FBI to wear a wire in the Oval Office, I doubt we’d ever find out about it, because it would run counter to their narrative that Trump was the one conspiring.
More likely this is just more psych op fodder to make the Trump administration appear scandal-ridden. Secret tapes, deep-throat sources, Saturday massacres, tearful confessions… sound familiar?
If Meadows conspired with the FBI to wear a wire in the Oval Office, I doubt we’d ever find out about it, because it would run counter to their narrative that Trump was the one conspiring.
More likely this is just more psych op fodder to make the Trump administration appear scandal-ridden. Secret tapes, deep-throat sources, Saturday massacres, tearful confessions… sound familiar?
How about NO national police force? They can request help from the state or county or local poleese if they ever need it. The constitution never granted the feds a police force power. Time to undo a lot of FDR’s fascist poo.
IF THIS IS TRUE, GOD HELP HIS BLACK SOUL.
How?
“If Meadows conspired with the FBI to wear a wire in the Oval Office, I doubt we’d ever find out about it, because it would run counter to their narrative that Trump was the one conspiring.”
If they want to use any tapes he recorded, or his testimony, we will definitely find out about it.
Well, if its true it shows the FBI had hours and hours of tape of Trump discussing the innermost strategies of his administration.
Apparently the FBI found nothing illegal or we would know by now.
True. If.
But my guess is 1) Meadows was not an FBI informant wearing a wire, and this story is a crock, and 2) even if he was, Trump didn’t do anything wrong, so whatever they got would not be worth exposing themselves to the blowback.
Public trust in the FBI is at an all time low - if they exposed the fact that they spied on a duly elected POTUS, half the country would be furious. The smart half.
This story is a crock.
ANY proof or just something someone heard someone’s brother’s uncle say to his sister’s friend?
Not me.
Could be both you know.
What do you mean, be should have known better? He was elected President and had to try to get some control over the millions of people that “work for” the government starting at the top. They all were protecting themselves from Wray on down. Sessions, Pence, there’s no way Trump could have known that he was going to be stabbed in the back by so many people. He might well have known better but there was only so much he could do. Obviously he missed some opportunities early on before the election steal got started but what could he have done differently without being able to predict the future?
No Deep State bureaucrat is terrified of Trump.
During his four years in office, Trump did not throw one consequential counter punch at the Deep State or make even one consequential change in Deep State policy.
I was thinking about that also. Not sure if the Chief of Staff gets shook down and wanded when he sees POTUS.
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