There is a Reason Ron DeSantis Keeps Talking About Georgia

In a roundabout way, here is my point.

If the fraud was as extensive as many claim in Georgia, why wasn’t Stacy Abrams elected as Governor, surely the Democratic precincts in the Atlanta around would do anything possible to get her in office, obviously that didn’t happen.

If Kemp and Raffensberger control all the cheating, why not work with them rather than trash them, nearly every Trump endorsed candidate in Georgia lost, while Kemp and Raffensberger candidates won, which cost the Republicans two Senate Seats.

It gets to my claim, you work with what you have and try to make it better, it’s the war we are trying to win, not the small battle, just think how much different it would be in Washington if Republicans had control of the House and Senate.

If you say, it wouldn’t matter, think about Merrick Garland, he would be on the Supreme Court right now rather than Neil Gorsuch, that is because the crap McConnell takes, he deserves the credit for that move.

In fact, Trump’s most important legacy from the first term was his impact on the Courts, 3 Supreme Court nominees, it all happened under McConnell.

You work with McConnell when you can to advance the agenda, you don’t trash him, in the end he can make your life miserable.

>>”If the fraud was as extensive as many claim in Georgia, why wasn’t Stacy Abrams elected as Governor, surely the Democratic precincts in the Atlanta around would do anything possible to get her in office, obviously that didn’t happen.”

Because the Democrats need cooperation from the Republicans in power, in order to do so. The Democrats may have run the operation in 2020, but they got away with it only because Kemp and Raffensperger were willing to look the other way.

Now, as far as working with what you’ve got, I get it. But you have to get something in return or there’s no point. State policy has little direct impact on the nation at large except for their effect on federal elections. When they allow fraud to steal a Senate seat or a Presidential election, that’s everyone’s problem. Kemp and Raffensperger have made it clear where they stand on corruption and election fraud. They’re either choosing to look the other way or they’re participants. That puts them squarely in the enemy camp.

Their policy on state issues means little to the rest of us. They’ve made it clear where they stand on the bigger challenge facing the country - taking down the deep state and bringing back fair, honest elections and government..

I shake my head that so many people are willing to lose honorably versus winning and trying to improve things.

If all these politicians are in total collusion with each other, it would be impossible to win, you might as well get a cabin in the wood and live off grid, because the election system is over with.

If there is any hope whatsoever to help make even small changes to this country, you have to win elections, it will not be perfect, it will not be pure and simple, the only thing that matters is winning, coming in second place means you are the first loser. There is no joy in losing.

Without Georgia and Arizona, the Republicans are toast, so is Trump and the entire MAGA movement, the math is impossible otherwise.

In every aspect of life, if you want to succeed you often have to work with people you don’t like, to move ahead you do it anyway because it’s impossible otherwise.

Nobody has a problem with losing honorably. We have a problem with an election being stolen. Some are happy to be cheated, gracefully and let bygones be bygones without ever addressing the underlying problem.

>>”If all these politicians are in total collusion with each other, it would be impossible to win, you might as well get a cabin in the wood and live off grid, because the election system is over with.”

Who said “all these politicians are in total collusion”? Some of them are, and some of them aren’t. To not be willing to differentiate between who is and who isn’t, is simply, laziness.

I’m not anti-Kemp or anti-Raffensperger because Trump lost Georgia. I’m against them because the election was stolen from Trump and they did nothing to stop it. Anyone who can’t see the fraud in Georgia isn’t looking very hard.

Trump lost other states fair and square. Do you hear any of us complaining that Maryland was stolen or Massachusetts was stolen? Of course not. But the anomalies in the Georgia election are too blatant and extensive to explain away.

Basically, that comes down to a loser mentality, which I refuse to accept.

Whenever I raise these issues, I get excuse after excuse why things won’t work, the machines are hacked, the politicians cheated, etc., and every time all these issues work against Trump, maybe he lost because the voters rejected him and his endorsed candidates.

I never hear a possible solution, recently one solution I was given was to drag a judge into the street and beating them until they confess, which is obviously ridiculous.

Whenever I hear someone shoot down every possible solution and never offering an alternative solution it comes down to a losing mentality.

Basically, that comes down to a loser mentality, which I refuse to accept.

I never hear a possible solution, recently one solution I was given was to drag a judge into the street and beating them until they confess, which is obviously ridiculous.

Whenever I hear someone shoot down every possible solution and never offering an alternative solution it comes down to a losing mentality.

Now you’re throwing up straw man argument again and falsely representing what I said. Who’s talking about excuses or saying why things won’t work. I’m talking about what clearly DIDN’T work in 2020.

The electoral system in Georgia was corrupt and fraudulent, plain and simple. What we do from here is a different subject entirely. You’re trying to conflate acknowledging what happened with giving up. Nothing could be further from the truth, and it’s ironic that you would talk about solving problems because if you never acknowledge the problem you’ll never find a solution. Your idea of finding solutions is to stick your head in the sand and ignore the problem.

But the following comment:

Whenever I hear someone shoot down every possible solution and never offering an alternative solution it comes down to a losing mentality.

is most inspiring. Why not save it for someone to whom it applies?

You’ve just proved my point, the minute you start to mention the election system being corrupt in Georgia it really means losing mentality l.

Basically Trump and MAGA can’t win in Georgia because of the election system, which is 100% an excuse and represents a losing mentality

Republicans own the state of Georgia except where Trump is involved, that says more about Trump than the election system in Georgia

Argument whatever you want after that but it’s true

>>”You’ve just proved my point, the minute you start to mention the election system being corrupt in Georgia it really means losing mentality.”

I proved your point? Then you have some serious problems with reading comprehension because you continue to read things into my comments that aren’t there. I’m talking about what the electoral system in Georgia was in 2020, and what remains broken, not what’s going to happen in 2024. Quitting is the furthest thing from my min. Nobody’s giving up.

There are people still trying to fix things in Georgia, like Garland Favorito who has an ongoing lawsuit to address the fraud. On top of that, without COVID, the circumstances will be different this time, which will make it harder to cheat. But the problem still needs to be recognized and vigilance is still required. And at some point, if the turnout is large enough, it becomes impossible to steal enough votes to change the outcome.

With an emphasis on things like legal ballot harvesting, and with Biden’s plummeting popularity, I’m optimistic that Trump can win in Georgia, but, even if he doesn’t, he has the opportunity to win states like New Mexico, Minnesota, Nevada and New Hampshire, that people aren’t even discussing.

I’m pointing out a problem from 2020 so it can be overcome in 2024. You pretend to be an optimist by ignoring the problem. Pretending a problem doesn’t exist doesn’t make you an optimist. It makes you a fool.

I’m not ignoring anything but I’m not using it as an excuse either, all I know is Trump and nearly everyone of his endorsed candidates in Georgia lost, a state where Republicans control everything, the losses have less to do with cheating than rejection of Trump who did everything in the world to lose elections

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