Posted on 06/16/2023 5:22:24 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
Let’s review.
A judge who has nothing to do with the case is now allowed to make decisions on the case. The judge who was assigned to the case didn’t hear the arraignment (relatively normal), but now another judge is going to hear a part of the case?
Trump is accused of possessing top secret information. However, the DOJ wants to make it so those documents can’t be shown to his attorneys, so they can’t actually know what he is accused of “possessing” or possibly “releasing” to others.
This certainly sounds like a totally legit investigation and court case. They are preventing Trump from mounting a defense much the same as they are doing in Manhattan.
The “Trump exception” to all laws, precedent, rules, and regulations strikes again!
Or, am I misunderstanding this issue?
Who says they are classified?
Telepathic Intruder asks the question of the day.
There are some folks on here who have identified themselves as being former members of the IC or contracted with it. So, maybe they can weigh in.
So......
1. Just because someone has a TS/SCI or TS/SAP, doesn’t mean that they are privy to everything and allowed to know everything. Everything in that world is compartmentalized, hence SCI. IE...an FBI Agent can’t walk into DEA headquarters and demand to see any file they want. They can’t just sit in on a briefing or operational planning session, unless they’re asked to. Everything is NEED TO KNOW. No matter what level a clearance is.
If FBI Frank shows up at a US Marshal’s office, he can’t just join a meeting. He has to have a reason for being there and if there is none, his TSSCI means squat and he’s told to leave
2. The entity that declares something classified is the agency that produces it. The FBI can classify work generated by the FBI. It has nothing to do nor any say in what any other agency classifies or doesn’t classify. Unless the FBI brought in folks from DOD and other agencies, they have no authority to say what classification anything is/was, unless it was generated from someone in the FBI. They have no authority to declare a DOD file classified. DOD does that.
3. There are maybe a handful of folks that have TS/SAP clearances. A clearance normally reserved for the Secretaries, Joint Chiefs, FBI/CIA Directors. And even that doesn’t allow any of them to just access any information they want, whenever they want. There always has to be a reason.
4. People without any type of clearance can be shown classified information or privy to classified operations. They can be “READ IN”. The agency that needs you for some reason will do a quick background check and then inform you that if you divulge any information, it’s off to the pokey for you. Most of the time it’s because a person has some expertise on a certain subject.
IE....FBI identifies an issue. Cannot solve the problem. They find out that Joe in Cleveland is a SME on the issue. Joe can be approached and asked for help. Doesn’t mean that he’s going to be doing search warrants and seeing the entire case file, but he will be given the opportunity to lend a hand. Perfect example...Indiana Jones
And at the end of the day, all a clearance is, is something the federal government gives you after doing a background check and saying that you’re ‘cleared’ to access a certain level of information. If you have no criminal record, aren’t a drug addict and have good credit, you get one. And even negative or derogatory information may not preclude you from getting one. And in the case of someone like Soetero, you get one with the job, even if you couldn’t get one through normal channels.
So, it’s kind of odd to me that the FBI and DOJ are saying what is classified, as if they are the de facto adjudicators of such things.
And at the end of the day, sounding simplistic, they all work for the Executive Branch. The President. He’s the one that gave all of them the authority to classify what they wanted to classify. He’s also the one that can take it away, whenever he wants. The ONLY person, other than maybe his Chief of Staff(but then with the authority of the President), that can access anything at anytime. No one call tell him sh*t.
This nonsense about there being a declassification process is exactly that. Nonsense. The process is for folks and entities BELOW the Chief Executive to ask for and get approval for declassifying.
Every document Trump removed was declassified because the first sentence in Article II of the US Constitution gives him sole power to do so.
He literally was charged with a crime he couldn’t commit as President.
Release them. they’re NOT classified because Trump declassified them. Period.
Mistrial
The laws are for little people!
Their hatred of Trump and their fear of Trump.. is driving them to areas not known.
Looking at this whole thing.. every dept of the government is against Trump. And every judge is either against Trump or threatened.. every safe guard has been overrun.
The republicans wont go to bat for Trump.. there is nothing left ..but PRAYER..
If they are sucessful, they will remain in control. And our republic will be gone.
The devil is having a hay day.. and this is time to overrule .. to fight like our life depended on it.
Now why would Trump agree to do that? The timing of this indictment wasn’t Trump’s decision; it was Biden’s and Garland’s decision. Why should Trump agree to their timing?
Here we go again. Where have we heard this before? You have to keep your mouth shut because we have more investigating. Well, that’s tough. You should have thought about that before you indicted, not after. If you don’t like Trump reporting on every aspect of his public lynching, Biden, and the rest of his lynch mob should withdraw the indictments until they finish their investigating.
Doesn’t matter what they want. The Miami judge ruled already that they have to provide clearance for trump’s lawyers to see the documents. If they deny her request I hope she’ll just dismiss. That’s why you’re hearing rumors of a back up plan which is called Plan B. These BASTARDS ARE EFFIN EVIL!!!!!!
You are misunderstanding this issue. The DoJ is not asking that Trump’s attorneys not receive or be able to see the documents. They are asking that Trump only be able to see them with his lawyers present, and that he be prevented from releasing the documents (and presumably from releasing the information contained in the documents.)
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You have to have somebody lead the circus parade through town. He's it.
“”The Justice Department filed a motion seeking to block Trump from releasing classified documents that will be shared with his lawyers.””
Standard prog moves.
See “Prog Step 1 thinking” at this link... https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4161107/posts?page=31#31
Progs do not allow anyone to defend themselves.
I would take every last page, make a few hundred sets and send them out to all non-prog media tonight, before the prog motion.
When the prog start screeching tell them to suck on it.
They want to create non-existent crimes then they can deal with some very real blowback and questions.
And NO, no one really cares about their phoney “investigation.”
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But! But! But!
President Trump declassified the documents before he left the White House!
Add that one to the list.
I can't help it.
I like more, in certain circumstances.
Great way to PRAY!!!
Psalms 23:5? (The Lord's Prayer)
What prophets of God could do. Evil people are glad we're ungodly.
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