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The #DeSantis2024 role play is over
Twitter ^ | miguelifornia

Posted on 05/16/2023 9:05:39 AM PDT by conservative98

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To: gibsonguy
For me, the way someone answers the stolen 20 election question is how l determine where they stand.

And it reveals who has courage versus who will just go along to get along. DeSantis has certainly governed with courage in Florida, but this weak attempt to placate the very people who enabled the 2020 election theft is pathetic and a huge warning sign. It clearly looks like he’s being bankrolled by the usual suspects, and is therefore now trying to placate those RINO donors.

21 posted on 05/16/2023 10:11:15 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.y )
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To: ilgipper
Trump has zero chance to win #10,720.
22 posted on 05/16/2023 10:13:46 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: conservative98

Disneyland tickets?.


23 posted on 05/16/2023 10:27:19 AM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: dragnet2

How can anyone calling themselves a patriot look at how the administrative state has reacted to Trump, the illegal schlitt we know they’ve pulled on him, and then give them exactly what they were after by refusing to support him in 2024?


24 posted on 05/16/2023 10:36:38 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Observator

The only reason Trump “lost” the popular in 2020 was entirely because of the vote in two very corrupt states, CA and NY.


25 posted on 05/16/2023 10:39:10 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: mewzilla

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26 posted on 05/16/2023 10:45:19 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: Observator

First,

I absolutely think were massive fraud in the ‘20 election and DJT was cheated in multiple way

I firmly supported him both times

I admire Lindell’s patriotism, however (and understand I have significant experience in this area) I have yet to see anything credible come out of his so called cyber experts.

Dominion helping cheat? Absolutely Manipulating vote totals? Quite possible

Somehow the chinese using packet captures to modify results? It doesn’t work like that. If you have some information regarding this that disagrees I am happy to read it (nless its some q/trust the plan crap)


27 posted on 05/16/2023 10:50:06 AM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: ilgipper

Think he was the best president we have had in a long time, however I don’t believe for a minute that if the democrats said “hey, we like you and want you to be president again and will make sure you win” that he wouldn’t change positions on a lot of things overnight and try to explain it’s what he always meant.


28 posted on 05/16/2023 10:51:51 AM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: conservative98

The root problem is this: thanks to actions taken between the Civil War and WWI, chief among them:
- the Santa Clara county case vis a vis the 14th amendment, wherein corporations became people (and thus more equal than actual people)
- the Federal Reserve; and
- the 17th Amendment, by effecting corruption of the Senate through statewide efforts rather than many many State house offices

The US is uncontrollably an oligarchy for the last 100+ years. While technology seems to have exacerbated this, really it’s been the means by which we can see the strings being pulled.

So: it’s not Ron’s fault per se but unless you’re in the wealth class of a Trump or a Musk nobody gets anywhere without the backing of the hyper-rich. As if drawn from Randian memes, the one thing the oligarchy can’t stand is one of their own who bucks the trend. So: “get Trump.”

I like Ron. I think he’s doing great where he is. I don’t know if he has any choice but to play foil to Trump this time. An above poster suggested Trump has some opp research to unleash. Imagine what the deep state has on him to let loose if he doesn’t do as told?

Conversely, as much as I like him, there’s zero chance these oligarchs will let DeSantis implement any MAGA if elected. He will get a weasel VP choice foisted on him (c.f. Bush Sr.) and if elected would have a solid Deep State cabinet. Think what Trump got recommended to him, but more so.

IMO the game the oligarchy wants is for us to infight until there’s either a weakened Trump or a subservient DeSantis. I say it’s time to renew Reagan’s “11th commandment” and be so supportive of both, and leveraging the Dem Mail vote playbook, that a real red wave sweeps through and confounds the oligarchy (and so encourages friends of liberty around the globe).


29 posted on 05/16/2023 10:56:59 AM PDT by No.6
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“Trump needs competition.”

Perhaps, but there doesn’t seem to be a single person currently active in Republican politics who is capable of competing with him. That’s not Trump’s fault.


30 posted on 05/16/2023 10:59:36 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Observator

If the Democrats had cheated on the same scale in 2016 as they did in 2020, Hillary would have won.

More people disapproved of Trump than approved of him throughout most or all of his presidency. Why is it so surprising that he couldn’t break 50% of the popular vote?

People who live in solid Republican areas don’t realize how unpopular Trump was in the populous Democrat areas.


31 posted on 05/16/2023 11:01:29 AM PDT by x
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To: the OlLine Rebel

“You honestly think he’ll have MORE support than, say, 2016?”

He had more support in 2020 than in 2016. I see no reason to think that trend won’t continue.


32 posted on 05/16/2023 11:02:57 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Manuel OKelley

Pull up some video of Trump in the 80s and tell me he’s changed his positions.


33 posted on 05/16/2023 11:39:57 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: ilgipper

Trump is leading DeSantis by 62%. That’s a long way from zero. 😆


34 posted on 05/16/2023 11:49:07 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: mewzilla

Typical lawyer/politician answer from DeSantis. Exactly what one would expect.


35 posted on 05/16/2023 12:04:48 PM PDT by mbrfl (That's my Governor! Yes, that's right. That over-hyped Establishment tool is my Governor.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Excuse me. You are aware that Trump got even more votes in 2020 than in 2016, millions more? Massive fraud put Biden in the white house not votes and not any lack of enthusiasm for Trump.
Trump received 74 million votes in the 2020 presidential election, 12 million more than he received in the 2016 election.


36 posted on 05/16/2023 12:07:44 PM PDT by JayGalt (Convenience is the bait in which the true poison is concealed.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

“You honestly think he’ll have MORE support than, say, 2016?”

He did in 2020, so there’s that.

“2016 Trump won what was important - the Electoral”

AAANNNDD ... that’s how elections work in the USA.


37 posted on 05/16/2023 12:08:35 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Worrying doesn't take away tomorrow's troubles. It takes away today's peace.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Free rein? He’s not a king.


38 posted on 05/16/2023 12:09:27 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Worrying doesn't take away tomorrow's troubles. It takes away today's peace.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

“2016 Trump won what was important - the Electoral - but he lost the popular.”


What does the popular vote have to do with it? The first part of your sentence states the facts—the Electoral vote is what is important. It makes no matter how many Californians vote for the democrat. All of them can do so and it will not make any difference in the number of electoral votes they can produce for the democrat candidate. Their “D” votes are a given at this point.

The smaller states’ electoral votes is what is important. Without fraud, Trump can win those votes. He won in 2016 and would have won in 2020 if there had not been fraud.

Anyone who can read the Durham report and not realize that if they can do that, they can also create fake ballots and steal an election, isn’t really paying attention.


39 posted on 05/16/2023 12:15:27 PM PDT by CFW (old and retired)
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To: skeeter

Excellent point.

These are the same exact party people who got in behind globalist open border Bush for 8 years.


40 posted on 05/16/2023 1:28:46 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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