Posted on 01/17/2023 4:29:57 PM PST by rxsid
Yep...ignore the obvious bot replies.
The Delphi Technique, what it is and how to counter it.
There have been other threads about this, but I think this one is the most comprehensive.
Read it thoroughly, read it several times, extract its lessons for asynchronous bulletin board environments.
Think about who the most likely "change agents" are who are working in concert: Entro? Semi? Gas? Who always seems to appear when another appears first?
Know that we are being subjected to a known, studied, and practiced approach to control group dynamics and opinion in order to redirect it to a desired outcome.
Many people here have a natural recognition of when they're being played, but I offer this to show that they really ARE being played using a proven playbook.
Read it. Study it. Learn it. Repost it in future threads to educate the others to know what's really going on.
-PJ
very interesting.
Thanks for posting.
I didn’t see this mentioned - Steve willing to put his money where his mouth is:
“If you run a US airline, I’ll pay the costs to have all your pilots tested for cardiac issues”
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/if-you-run-a-us-airline-im-willing
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I believe Steve has offered to pay for cardiac screening for individual pilots who contact him as well and some have done so.
Saving to read later.
“Do you have any idea when the last time a change of this nature (loosening of standards) was made?”
Not really. But they do make slight changes reasonably often.
If you are interested, you can see all of the changes to the AME guide since 2004 here: https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/avs/offices/aam/ame/guide/media/archives.pdf
In my brother's case, he has already had numerous tests and exams done. There is no question that his heart has been damaged and he is now at much greater risk of having a cardiac event. He has always been very active and kept himself in excellent physical condition. He has no prior history of heart problems. He has been on a roller coaster ride of believing that his career over and then finding that he is going to be allowed to continue flying.
And as I mentioned, my wife and I live on an airpark which is an airport with houses built around it. Many of my neighbors are professional pilots basically all of them have been required to be vaccinated. I know others who have are having similar issues to my brother. It is a hot topic and if you know pilots... very few that I know would want to voluntarily have extensive testing done that might ground them. This applies to both professional and private pilots such as myself. I am surprised that Steve Kirsch has had any takers.
My cousin is in the business of commercial cargo planes, scheduling, etc. He was an Air Force pilot, but doesn’t fly any more as a civilian. I saw him at a funeral last Saturday and I was asking him how things were going. He said they are having a terrible time getting pilots. The “usual” pipeline of pilots exiting from the military isn’t flowing the way it used to so as pilots retire, there are no replacements (and there are other factors making pilots scarce). He seemed unaware of the pilot heart damage issue from the mandated ‘vaccines’ so I sent him some info ... he actually seemed somewhat interested so maybe I was able to do a little ‘redpilling’.
Josh Yoder of US Freedom Flyers, in interviews I’ve seen, has talked about pilots calling him and telling him they are flying with chest pains or other issues and do not want to come forward to get checked out because they’ll lose their livelihoods. They’re putting that before the safety of those flying on their planes ... for some, it’s truly a moral/ethical dilemma, but they’re ‘confessing’ to Yoder & still flying. If the airlines go to one pilot, I think that might change a few minds because if they have a serious incident/die, the plane will go down - right now, there is that extra pilot safety net. From the conversations, I don’t think a lot of pilots have gone to Steve, but some who do not want to die and leave their families, regardless of the job situation, appear to have made that choice.
The airlines that mandated the shots should pay dearly for ruining the health and jobs of pilots and in fact, killing some of them (same with hospitals, other companies, schools, etc.). This whole situation, for humanity as well as pilots, is just horrific. There is a gathering ‘storm’ and retribution is on the wind.
Reply to post 109.
I just went back and watched the part of the video (starting around 34 minutes) where they discuss the FAA and pilots, and you are correct. It wasn’t hidden or done on the sly. It is their normal process for updates. There are some updates that AMEs are required to read when we log in to the AMCS website... before we a proceed, but that only happens for things they consider critical. It is up to AMEs to regularly check for changes though. As you. pointed out, anyone can look at the guidelines. The AME guide does not give the whole picture on airmen certification, since many decisions have to be made by staff physicians or panels of consulting specialty physicians, but it is a lot better than it was 20 years ago.
I’ll just add a few things. They are correct that the EKG is a minimal way of screening, since it does not predict future events.
While it is possible that pilot will not be issued a medical based on something discovered at the time of their FAA medical exam, it ALMOST all cases, it is because of something that has occurred prior to the visit. It could be a medication they are on that is not allowed (almost any psych drug), a past medical condition they experienced or an ongoing medical condition that a person is being treated for.
The most common condition that are discovered at the time of the exam, in my experience, are (in order of frequency) diabetes/high blood sugar and high blood pressure. I can only think of a couple of times in the past 30 years that the EKG warranted deferral.
The cardiologist threw out some numbers about increased risk of death in those with increased PR interval (aka heart blocks). I’m not a cardiologist and I am not familiar with his source, but I suspect those numbers were relative risk increase. While the numbers he gave could be totally true, you need to know what the absolute risk is. The increase of risk from 1 per 1 million to 2 per 1 million is a 100% increase, but is it some thing I would worry about? I really don’t know what the risk is, that is just an example.
The FAA is charged with keeping the airway, safe. They are an administrative arm of our government, but decisions made are balanced on medical as well as political concerns. This is obvious when you consider the rules regarding age of retirement, and also in what is and is not required for an aviation medical exam. They know that, we know that. Any decision or regulation the FAA makes has to be balanced between air safety, pilots rights under our system, and the economic impact that the decision might have on air transportation and cargo, to name a few.
I listened to a brief clip from a DOD flight surgeon. It may have been on Tucker Carlson’s show. Until a pilot reaches the age of 40, heart tests are every 5 years and yearly after that. So if there are vax injuries, there is a lot of time between tests to detect it.
“In the October 2022 version of the FAA Guide for Aviation Medical Examiners, the FAA quietly widened the EKG parameters beyond the normal range (from a PR max of .2 to unlimited).
And they didn’t widen the range by a little. They widened it by a lot.
It was done after the vaccine rollout..”
”On October 24, 2022, the FAA quietly, without any announcement at all, widened the EKG requirements necessary for pilots to be able to fly.
This is extraordinary. They did it hoping nobody would notice. It worked for a while. Nobody caught it.
But you can’t hide these things for long.”
” This is a tacit admission from the US government that the COVID vaccine has damaged the hearts of our pilots.
Not just a few pilots. A lot of pilots and a lot of damage.
The cardiac harm of course is not limited to pilots. ..”
”The PR (a measure of heart function) used to be in the range of .12 to .2. It is now: .12 to .3 and potentially even higher.
This is a very wide range; it accommodates people who have cardiac injury.
Cardiologist Thomas Levy is appalled at this change...”
More information available in the article ..
Interesting video. Interviews with embalmers. Also, a questionnaire was sent out to morticians thru out the country regarding clots.
3rd class medical exams are required every 5 years for private pilots under the age of 40. Airline pilots under 40 are required to have a 1st class medical every year. They are required to get an EKG before they turn 35. Over the age of 40 they need a 1st class medicals every 6 months and an EKG every year.
My brother like most pilots is over 40. His swollen and inflamed heart was discovered not by an EKG but by a doctor performing the standard 1st class medical that was performed shortly after he received the vaccine.
I think you should review what the flight surgeon said to Tucker.
https://youtu.be/UDr0KT17qvI
The video is only 45 minutes in length
It shows that morticians and embalmers are encountering physical job related problems
(blood clots) while practicing their crafts.
Thanks for the update and clarification.!!!
There were no vaccines or boosters in 2001 so I presume this is a mistake. Were you taking any supplements for Covid protection? It seems it is that 4th jab or second booster that is more reactive.
There were no vaccines or boosters in 2001 so I presume this is a mistake. Were you taking any supplements for Covid protection? It seems it is that 4th jab or second booster that is more reactive.
There were no vaccines or boosters in 2001 so I presume this is a mistake. Were you taking any supplements for Covid protection? It seems it is that 4th jab or second booster that is more reactive.
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