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Fake cheers and retreats: Russians fall back as Ukrainian advance on Kherson "accelerates" in Kherson, Luhansk, Donetsk
Hot Air ^ | October 4, 2022 | Ed Morrisey

Posted on 10/04/2022 7:41:26 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

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To: MalPearce

As you correctly point out, there were many astounded, angry people within Russia after the dissolution of the crazist empire that the Soviets inherited and expanded.. Special anger was directed at Russian speaking countries such as Ukraine and Belarus. The loss of Crimea and lands where millions of Russians died and suffered liberating them from the invading Germans especially stung.

It was this faction which Putin supported and wholeheartedly belonged that led him to make his catastrophic mistake to wage total war in Ukraine. No doubt he believed his generals regarding the capabilities of the Russian army which proved to be false. He grossly underestimated the willingness, grit and capabilities of the Ukrainians to defend their lands and freedoms. Finally he grossly underestimated the response of the globalist dominated West to weaken strategically and economically ruin the Russian nation state. A major goal for the globalists in this war was to transform Russia from a prosperous nation state into a pliable clog in the new globalist/socialist world order. They are succeeding

In short Putin ruined his country and has destabilized the world.


21 posted on 10/04/2022 10:18:21 AM PDT by allendale
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To: jdsteel
Not a lot of time spent with nuclear weapons and effects, right?

Hiroshima and Nagasaki have had long-term effects - along with all 350+ above-ground nuclear tests which have included hundreds of thousands to potentially millions of cancers, birth defects and other health effects, around the world.

Our government and the rest of the nuclear powers will never openly mention this because they could never afford to pay for the liabilities these massive amounts of harmful materials those detonations spread around the world. There is no single square inch of the Earth's surface that has escaped that contamination.

I worked in underground nuclear testing, nuclear effects testing, helped implement and verify the Threshold Test Ban Treaty and I was a MOS 5715 Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical Weapons Employment Officer.

Your experience was what?

22 posted on 10/04/2022 10:32:31 AM PDT by Chainmail (Harrassment, to be effective, must be continuous.)
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To: JonPreston

Kherson was always going to be tough for Russia to hold once the bridges were HIMAS’d.

Even RT would have a tough time putting a happy face on what Russia is facing.


23 posted on 10/04/2022 10:52:17 AM PDT by UNGN
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To: caww

The only chicken counters were those droning on about Russians Meatgrinders, while ignoring the stacks of Russian kids in bodybags.

Based on activity, I wouldn’t be shocked if the Ukes take advantage of the Kherson collapse and make a run at Melitopol straight south out of Zaporizhzhia, causing even more chaos and halting resupply to Kherson.


24 posted on 10/04/2022 11:01:12 AM PDT by UNGN
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To: UNGN

Well things aren’t over yet so until they are it’s still an ongoing battlefield. In all conflicts there’s advances and retreats more than a few times so we’lll only know the nd rsult when th dust settles - and they’re not there yet.

As for bodies laying about - I think both sides have paid a heavy count. That’s what conflicts bring.


25 posted on 10/04/2022 11:20:02 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: ansel12

Source it.


26 posted on 10/04/2022 1:15:27 PM PDT by cranked
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To: ansel12

“...Putin’s legacy will be leaving Russia in shambles, poor, weak, backward, and vulnerable”

Source?


27 posted on 10/04/2022 1:34:50 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Chainmail

None of that justifies your over the top comment.

Your post saying that not one square inch of the earth escaped the effects of all of the above ground nuke tests prove it. The deadliness is in the dosage, and we live with varying degrees of radiation from numerous sources each and every day.

Please re-read the part where I say “no one wants a nuke”.


28 posted on 10/04/2022 2:20:57 PM PDT by jdsteel (PA voters: it’s Oz or Fetterman. Deal with it and vote accordingly.)
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To: jdsteel

Again, you have no idea at all what short and long term effects nuclear detonations have had on us and the rest of the world.

One of the reasons you don’t is because you haven’t spent any time at all in nuclear testing or likely anything involving the real thing.

Another reason is that the DOE keeps the detailed studies classified, including the data gathered before the 1962 suspension of above ground nuclear tests.

The Earth has never returned to the original “ background level” radiation since Alamogordo. Today, to accurately read the amount of radiation a person has absorbed requires a room made of battleship steel - the only material heavy enough to block cosmic radiation and only such material that was cast prior to 1945. Everything else is contaminated.


29 posted on 10/04/2022 2:39:43 PM PDT by Chainmail (Harrassment, to be effective, must be continuous.)
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