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The Dead Bodies of Russian Oil Oligarchs Keep Piling Up—Tally Now up to 8 Since January
Red State ^ | 09/02 | Bob Hoge

Posted on 09/02/2022 10:05:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 09/02/2022 10:05:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Curiouser and curiouser


2 posted on 09/02/2022 10:11:41 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: SeekAndFind
Do you think these are accidents?

No, but I don’t know how to say Arkancide in Russian.

3 posted on 09/02/2022 10:32:30 PM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: SeekAndFind

A typical Democrat Party inside struggle purge?


4 posted on 09/02/2022 11:18:58 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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To: SeekAndFind
It's how the ruling elite have always done business. The European monarchs, Roman emperors, ancient kings of Israel and its neighbors, emperors of China...

Periods of good republican government and rule of law have been rare in human history. America used to be in such a period, but is fast devolving into normalcy.

5 posted on 09/02/2022 11:23:43 PM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Nifster

Being to close to Putin is like being to close to Hitlery or Bill.


6 posted on 09/03/2022 1:28:47 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Few realize there are two levels of Oligarch status. There is the original group, who were there before Putin arrived, and there is the second group...created after Putin arrived, and mostly former FSB/KGB members (this group holds status with Putin...the original crew is less so). I would make an assumption that a factional war has started up with one crew taking apart the second crew.


7 posted on 09/03/2022 1:36:56 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: fella

Seems like it


8 posted on 09/03/2022 1:37:57 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: SeekAndFind

I listened to a Kremlin watcher analyst. He said that Russia is a kleptocracy. Putin decides who gets the money. He bases that on whose loyalty he must buy. The statement put out by the company wasn’t anti invasion, it was an attempt to avoid sanctions and wasn’t critical of the Kremlin in any way. It said, “War is bad. Violence is bad.
We hope this is over soon.”

The idea that anyone would murder these men without clearance directly from Putin is absurd. (According to the analyst.) The probability is that Putin has decided that the money needs to be redistributed to newer and better allies.

It is rather like the top guy in the Mafia deciding to redistribute the pie to new capos.


9 posted on 09/03/2022 3:05:06 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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And this russia is what putards think is superior to the west....spit...


10 posted on 09/03/2022 3:13:51 AM PDT by FreshPrince
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I really thought the the USA could have done more to invest in Russia after the USSR fell, getting companies, universities, business schools, etc. to help them develop into a free-market system.

I was probably too naive - the mobsters were already active under the Soviets, and with the fall could come out in the open.

I met an oil guy from the USA that worked in Russia. He was with a major firm like Exxon or something. He said he would always offer a fair price, but wouldn’t bribe or anything to get the lease. I asked him how was he able to do any business then?

“The guys that offer the bribes are all mob. And lots of people don’t like to deal with the mob. They might get a bribe up front, but then they are stuck with all the other crap the mob will bring.”

He did say how he kept his head down and did things quietly. He met another guy from the USA and the main hotel where the Americans stayed in Moscow. The other guy was big into buying properties and was real loud, bragged a lot about how he was buying up all the property, etc. He told the guy to shut up and be quiet about it and just do business, but the guy didn’t listen.

The real estate guy was found dead in some park in Moscow.


11 posted on 09/03/2022 3:23:15 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: fella

Yea, I know. Who does he think he is, Hillary?


12 posted on 09/03/2022 3:34:07 AM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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Russia had well organized criminal gangs in the Soviet era. Under the socialist system, bribery and corruption were necessary to function in industry and commerce. Central planning led to inefficiencies that could only be overcome through black market dealings. Post Stalin, the rewards exceeded the risks.

Many Soviet immigrants that came to America in the 1970s were members of these gangs. The Russian mafia competed with Hispanic and Italian gangsters in New York. The collapse of the USSR was to Russian (and Ukrainian) organized crime what Prohibition was to American organized crime: a boon.

The KGB was aware of the criminal syndicates and infiltrated them. When the USSR collapsed, many KGB and Communist Party higher-ups took advantage of the chaos to enrich themselves. Putin was among them. The combination of gangsters and ex-KGB agents were well versed in ruthless tactics.

The comparison of Putin with the Clintons is appropriate. Both Bill and Hillary Clinton grew up in families with connections with organized crime. Bill's birth father and grandfather were bootleggers. His stepfather was connected with gambling and other rackets in Hot Springs, Arkansas, where Chicago and New York gangsters "retired". Hillary Clinton's father was from notoriously corrupt Scranton, Pennsylvania (BTW, Biden's home town), where Hillary's grandmother ran a brothel. Her father was in the drapery business in Chicago and was a business partner with corrupt Chicago Congressman Dan Rostenkowski in a bank involved inoney laundering. It is probable that Hillary's father was on good terms with the Chicago "Outfit", which was multiethnic, unlike New York's Five Families.

So if Putin's enemies die of Arkancide, consider that both he and the Clintons come from corrupt and criminal backgrounds.

13 posted on 09/03/2022 4:05:36 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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The Dead Bodies of Russian Oil Oligarchs Keep Piling Up—Tally Now up to 8 Since January

Darth Putin @DarthPutinKGB

List of people who’ve annoyed Kremlin & been poisoned:

Anna Politkovskaya

Vladimir Kara Murza (twice)

Petr Verzilov

Alexander Litvinenko

Sergei Skripal

Alexander Perepilichny

Yuri Shchekochikhin

Emilian Gebrev

Viktor Yushchenko

Alexey Navalny

Pro Kremlin figures poisoned:

...

14 posted on 09/03/2022 5:37:27 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: Nifster
Just go read Red Notice by Bill Browder chronicling his hedge fund's efforts to invest in Russian energy sector; nothing to see here, business as usual. Good read, btw.
15 posted on 09/03/2022 6:10:22 AM PDT by Ahithophel (Communication is an art form susceptible to sudden technical failure)
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To: SeekAndFind

Eight isn’t a “pile”. The Russians have demonstrated what piles of bodies look like, mountains really.


16 posted on 09/03/2022 7:04:53 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: SeekAndFind

The oligarchy was in cahoots with our deep state, washing money through Ukraine.


17 posted on 09/03/2022 7:21:51 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (DJT24)
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To: 21twelve
I really thought the the USA could have done more to invest in Russia after the USSR fell, getting companies, universities, business schools, etc. to help them develop into a free-market system.

I was probably too naive - the mobsters were already active under the Soviets, and with the fall could come out in the open.

America's "economic advisors" helped the oligarchs financially rape the Russian people.

The U.S. had sent Ivy League experts to Russia to help them privatize their economy. Russian citizens all received stock shares in newly privatized state properties (e.g., oil & gas fields, farmlands, media, factories, etc.).

But these private citizens were financially naive and desperately poor. Russia's first batch of oligarchs (working with America's advisers) bought up these shares for far less than they were worth.

What we should have done was ban people from selling their shares for a least 10 years. You don't give valuables to an inexperienced child, then shove him out into the "free market" and expect him to show any financial savvy.

18 posted on 09/03/2022 10:09:26 AM PDT by Angelino97
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We also interfered in their elections....

Funny how it's ok when Democrats interfere in other country's elections.

19 posted on 09/03/2022 10:11:46 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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Funny how it's ok when Democrats interfere in other country's elections.

Well, to be fair, Republicans also interfere in other country's elections. Especially Neocons.

Meddling in other countries' politics is a long American tradition, going back to the heyday of the Banana Republics over a century ago.

We helped Panama secede from Columbia in 1903 so we could build the canal. (Ironic, that we wouldn't let the Confederacy secede, but within a generation helped Panama secede.)

20 posted on 09/03/2022 10:20:57 AM PDT by Angelino97
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