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Bear Spray Fatality: Leah Lokan Used Bear Spray, was Killed by Grizzly Bear
Gun Watch ^ | July 14, 2022 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/19/2022 5:03:27 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: marktwain

It is so sad this lady was the victim of a bear attack, when like others have said, a pistol could have stopped it.

Granted, the bear did the killing, but what enabled the killing was the American left’s anti gun crusade. I’ve been in national parks where it was preached repeatedly that firearms should not be used, that bear spray is the most effective. This may be the case for a black bear, not the grizzly, their instinctive will to kill until killed is awesome. The only way to shut down this instinct is to shut down their CNS, and bear spray will not do this.


21 posted on 07/19/2022 5:51:34 AM PDT by redfreedom (You can vote your way into socialism, but you may have to shoot your way out.)
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To: Mean Daddy
“ Told her I would get a gun that had a .4x in the caliber for their hikes. I had seen this same advice on here.”

Many are using 10mm these days. I’m old school like you and stick with a Ruger 44mag

22 posted on 07/19/2022 5:58:51 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Nifty
This is what I don’t fully understand. Why the hell shoot the bear later? So it wont “attack” again?

Only a small percentage of bears attack humans.

The percentage is much greater for grizzly bears than for black bears, but it is still less than 10%.

Weed out the bears which attack humans, and the "bold" bears are weeded out of the gene pool.

It has worked over and over and over.

Embolden the bears by doing nothing, and the learn there is no consequence for attacking humans and stealing human food.

23 posted on 07/19/2022 6:01:59 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Varda
Also black bears kill more humans than other species.

It depends what species you are comparing the bears to.

Dogs kill far more humans than bears do.

Grizzly bears kill a few more than black bears.

Arguably, mosquitoes kill the most humans... or maybe, counting past deaths, the smallpox virus...

24 posted on 07/19/2022 6:04:40 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: redfreedom
it was preached repeatedly that firearms should not be used, that bear spray is the most effective. This may be the case for a black bear, not the grizzly,

Strangely, what we have found is black bears are more resistant to bear spray, and grizzly bears are far more dangerous, per bear.

Bear spray has become a cult fetish with some bear proponents.

25 posted on 07/19/2022 6:07:28 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Someone takes lentils for food when camping??????


26 posted on 07/19/2022 6:10:50 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith…)
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To: Nifty

>>I’d rather they tranquilized the bear and relocated it.<<

Relocate a bear which has demonstrated that he will attack and kill humans?

How about he gets relocated to your back yard?


27 posted on 07/19/2022 6:11:39 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: marktwain

Those who promulgate the bear spray Big Lie are guilty of murder imo, just as they would be if they told a blind person it was safe to cross the street when it wasn’t.


28 posted on 07/19/2022 6:12:09 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: marktwain

Bear spray is like a condom with a hole in it. You may get the girl pregnant, or maybe she won’t become pregnant. It’s not an effective tool and other factors are involved in the outcome.

A gun is closer to an intact condom, 98% when used effectively.


29 posted on 07/19/2022 6:12:12 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: marktwain
If I was in grizzly country I'd want lead spray, at the very least in .44 magnum.

Here in black bear country .357 is plenty adequate.

30 posted on 07/19/2022 6:17:58 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Nathan _in_Arkansas
I was in Montana last week. I didn’t go anywhere without my firearm.

I was hangin' around home last week. I didn’t go anywhere without my firearm.

31 posted on 07/19/2022 6:19:34 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐Public hangings will wake 'em up.⭐⭐)
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To: 1Old Pro
Yes, bear spray works some of the time.

We do not know how effective it is, because the "studies" done on bear spray suffer from significant selection bias, and because it is very difficult to collect data on incidents involving bear spray.

It was suprising to find handguns work more effectively against bear attacks than long guns.

I believe this is an artifact of the definition of a bear attack. If a bear starts charging you from 200 yards away, and you kill it at 100 yards with a rifle, many would not call it a bear attack.

Another point is pistols tend to be with you when you need them; and rifles are often carried without a round in the chamber.

32 posted on 07/19/2022 6:20:11 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

makes sense


33 posted on 07/19/2022 6:22:57 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: marktwain

Best brand of bear spray with 99% effective rate is called 357 Magnum!!!


34 posted on 07/19/2022 6:25:23 AM PDT by ontap
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To: marktwain

I have a can of that Frontiersman spray in my console, but it is not for bears.


35 posted on 07/19/2022 6:26:06 AM PDT by anton
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To: marktwain

Kill them all.


36 posted on 07/19/2022 6:32:26 AM PDT by nagant
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To: marktwain
Ms. Lokan got up and moved two bags of food (packaged snack foods and a large bag of lentils) from her tent...

This is what probably got her killed. Rule #1 of camping - ignored.

37 posted on 07/19/2022 6:39:53 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐Public hangings will wake 'em up.⭐⭐)
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To: EvilCapitalist

I’m thinking RPG.


38 posted on 07/19/2022 6:42:24 AM PDT by Rappini
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Just kill the bears. They are nearly as deadly as lions and tigers.


39 posted on 07/19/2022 6:43:26 AM PDT by TakebackGOP
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To: TakebackGOP
Just kill the bears. They are nearly as deadly as lions and tigers.

Not they way they've been playing for the last decade.

40 posted on 07/19/2022 6:44:36 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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