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Happy 40th Birthday to Wrath of Khan, The Film That Saved Star Trek
Gizmodo ^ | June 4, 2022 | Justin Carter

Posted on 06/11/2022 7:35:03 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man

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To: scrabblehack

That’s true.


21 posted on 06/11/2022 7:58:33 PM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

If you think about the first feature film, it’s a lot like the first pilot that the network turned down as “too cerebral”. People like action movies, so of course TWOK was a much bigger success.


22 posted on 06/11/2022 8:01:15 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

The Voyage Home is my favorite. The Cetacean Bioogist did what I would love to do, go to the future, sorta. I amed a couple of Turtles George and Gracie. They didn’t let me down, they had hatchlings.


23 posted on 06/11/2022 8:02:40 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Charles Martel

I would say that The movie wanted to be cerebral, but it certainly lacked humor. The characters were mostly established, so it could have used the humor in known relationships that TWOK did, unlike the pilot.

Now that you make me remember, it was really just the episode, “The Changeling”, but with a much bigger budget.


24 posted on 06/11/2022 8:11:18 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Macho MAGA Man

I’ll never forget sitting in the front row of the theater as a kid as the curtain rolled up and a couple of blue hairs were saying “It’s so sad when Spock dies!!”


25 posted on 06/11/2022 8:12:11 PM PDT by Observator
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Star Trek (2009) was not bad. The only respectable flick by J.J. Abrams. All others by him were crap.


26 posted on 06/11/2022 8:16:57 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Holy cow:

That’s $294 million in 2022 dollars. It was bigger than I thought.


27 posted on 06/11/2022 8:17:18 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Never watched the TV series, but enjoyed the movies very much. II was the best of them. Agree all the stuff with whales was a bit too greenie/eco nut for me.

“It’s his way” though, was timeless, along with. “Too much LDS”

The humor in Voyage home was great.


28 posted on 06/11/2022 8:17:19 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (Let's go Brandon)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

Oh yeah. The TV show had humor at times. The Voyage Home humor had lots of humor and reminded me a bit of the “in your face” humor of the one-off episode “the Trouble with Tribbles”.


29 posted on 06/11/2022 8:18:17 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: M1903A1

Ricardo said that when he was asked if he wanted to do the movie, and they sent him a script, he was disappointed that his character barely appeared in it. whatever his motives, he said that when he saw that at least other characters were always talking about the character, he was somewhat mollified.

he apparently flew in over a weekend and did the opening scene in the botany bay with winfield/koenig cold in one cut. meyer said that was almost exactly the take they kept.

the actor’s point that the character of Khan is barely in the movie had actually escaped me all these decades until he spelled it out.


30 posted on 06/11/2022 8:18:22 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

in part this is blamed on robert wise - he had never worked on star trek wasn’t familiar with the story from the series, and even nixed some attempts to get humor in apparently.


31 posted on 06/11/2022 8:20:04 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Dang, 40 years ago? Feeling old.


32 posted on 06/11/2022 8:21:02 PM PDT by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

Count me as one more vote for the Wrath of Khan as the best one in the series.


33 posted on 06/11/2022 8:21:11 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: JennysCool

Meyer had some comments about directing shatner - you would need to let him do it his way a few takes, so he would tire down and not over-act as much to get a better performance. he gives examples from the second movie where bill was hamming it up and they just had to keep shooting till he lost interest in continuing it.

taking this into account when looking at shatner overacting in most of ST V explains a lot I didn’t understand at the time about why that movie was so poorly acted.


34 posted on 06/11/2022 8:22:19 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Lazamataz
It was way too eco-preachy for me. Like some sort of powerful being was going to come back to Earth to... sing like a whale? Stupid plot. Sierra-club ecoweenie nonsense.

Me too.

35 posted on 06/11/2022 8:22:21 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Vote Democrat and stay on the plantation!)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty
Yes, it didn't take long for the Motion Picture to earn the nickname "Where Nomad Has Gone Before".

Part of the film's issues were the lengthy (though amazing for the period) special effects, showing off the updated ship in painstaking detail. After all, Parmount decided to go the feature film route instead of the planned "Star Trek - Phase II" series, which would've featured some of the same updated sets and wardrobe. So they spent a lot of time showing it off.

The other factor was probably the director. Looking back at Robert Wise's body of work, you find "The Day The Earth Stood Still" and "The Andromeda Strain", both of which are examples of sci-fi done in a serious tone.

36 posted on 06/11/2022 8:23:00 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

I liked that movie until about a quarter of the way through, and realized, hey, I’ve seen this thing before. It was nothing but a rip off of their own episode “The Changeling” They just replaced “Nomad” with “VGer”
Great special effects though, esp for the time


37 posted on 06/11/2022 8:25:52 PM PDT by sunny bonobo
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To: Macho MAGA Man

https://www.adultswim.com/videos/robot-chicken/two-kirks-a-khan-and-a-pizza-place


38 posted on 06/11/2022 8:26:31 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: sunny bonobo

I guess I should have read some more posts before responding. I see my point has already been made.


39 posted on 06/11/2022 8:27:52 PM PDT by sunny bonobo
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“The Voyage Home” is my favorite, too.


40 posted on 06/11/2022 8:32:53 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (My body, my choice....but not when it comes down to unconstitutional "vaccine" mandates.)
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