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It's Official: California State University Has Permanently Abandoned Standardized Testing
Red State ^ | 03/28/2022 | Alex Parker

Posted on 03/28/2022 8:03:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: FatherofFive
60% of college students are women.

Any area that becomes female-heavy also sinks in value automatically. Women take over universities; men turn to trade school. We'll eventually return to the Victorian days of women being in charge of culture and men being in charge of structure and function. Men build society; women hang the curtains.

41 posted on 03/29/2022 5:12:40 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: Mears

They will.


42 posted on 03/29/2022 5:22:51 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Don't blame me, I voted for President Trump. Let's Go Brandon! FJB!)
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To: A_perfect_lady

I know—and I liked the SAT as it was so objective—maybe over time the GPA being the best correlation to high performance in college will fade. I see a lot of grade inflation going on at Cal State as well. I went to UC in the late 1980s and there was no extra credit, open book/open note tests, etc. I see lots of that now at Cal State, and lots of “online learning” where it’s easy to cheat.

These will be our future engineers and pilots and surgeons so it’s scary. Not sure where the excellence is anymore.


43 posted on 03/29/2022 6:34:03 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: A_perfect_lady

In the UK I read it’s now 70% women at universities! Men are rapidly losing interest.


44 posted on 03/29/2022 6:34:53 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: SeekAndFind

I think taking bribes from millionaire actors is a much better way to determine admissions anyway.


45 posted on 03/29/2022 6:36:30 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: olivia3boys

I hope that means guys are going into useful trades, not on the dole.


46 posted on 03/29/2022 6:36:45 AM PDT by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: outpostinmass2

Well, in CA, SATs are not only NOT required (for anyone), they are NOT even optional (for anyone). UC and Cal State now refuse to accept them for admission purposes at all.


47 posted on 03/29/2022 6:37:11 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Not at all, because an AP class offers a grade boost—a B in an AP class is an A.


48 posted on 03/29/2022 6:38:09 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Would you rather hire a Cal Poly San Luis Obispo engineering major, or a Stanford “woke” major?


49 posted on 03/29/2022 6:39:52 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: nascarnation

As a mom of three young adult men, I think it’s a dangerous trend (men shunning college) for many reasons. My boys all went to college, obtained BS degrees (Econ, Business, Computer Science) and ignored all the “wokeness.”

A college degree still opens many more doors. And do we want all of our surgeons and engineers and pilots and teachers and lawyers to be only women?


50 posted on 03/29/2022 6:58:35 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: SeekAndFind

College has become a participation trophy anymore. I do not accept 4-year college degrees because of this.

Far too many kids in college ‘graduate’ with so little knowledge or skills. They feel entitled to be patted on the head for anything and everything. They have failed to achieve and cannot grow as they did not learn the life skills necessary to achieve.

Also, most of their classes are “Introduction to...” type of classes. That is for High School, not college.

I know a number of large companies going back to internally publishing colleges and degree programs they will accept for employment. They are also reviewing transcripts for grades and course content. They take out “Women’s Studies” and other useless classes from the transcripts. What is left had better have the required courses or the degree program is rejected.

I, personally, only hire doctorate graduates from specific programs. College is far too soft on education for a Bachelor or Master’s program to be accepted. No online programs qualify, too much fraud.

I taught college, and was a student up until two years ago, and I saw the utter contempt for education in universities. I saw a black female in a Calculus course get passed with a D- because she simply wrote her name on the test paper. I saw students who couldn’t write a complete sentence get a C if they turned in a paper because the submission rate was only 15% for the class. I saw capstone projects with 5 people on a team and only 1 did any work but all passed. Colleges are money mills now, not institutions of education.


51 posted on 03/29/2022 7:01:07 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: CodeToad

The Big Education Cycle

Make unlimited borrowed funds available to students from govt
Schools raise prices to scoop up available cash
Schools pay profs and admins big salaries
Profs and admins donate to Democrats

and repeat


52 posted on 03/29/2022 7:05:02 AM PDT by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: SeekAndFind

A turd world education for turd world people...


53 posted on 03/29/2022 7:08:19 AM PDT by unread (Everything you ever thought was right, fair and just is completely wrong..... I think..(?))
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To: nascarnation

Exactly. The democrap college money laundering scheme. They get a twofer: Indoctrinate kids and fund communism at the same time.


54 posted on 03/29/2022 7:18:42 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: olivia3boys

So what tests do they accept?


55 posted on 03/29/2022 7:27:47 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: outpostinmass2

None. No tests or essays. GPA and transcript only for admission.


56 posted on 03/29/2022 8:28:42 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: olivia3boys

So why pay for a private school? Why even live in a high property tax district? Attend mediocre schools in mediocre towns and be top of the class. That is if getting into top colleges are your primary goal.


57 posted on 03/29/2022 9:23:57 AM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: outpostinmass2

Well, there are a lot of issues here. Why pay for a private K-12 school? Or college? Lots of reasons. Why live in a high property tax district? Lots of reasons.

CA funds its K-12 public schools very differently than other states do. The wealthiest areas receive the least amount of funding per student. I live in the “3rd wealthiest” school district in CA (that accepts state funding—the very, very wealthiest simply do not!) and as a result my district receives the 3rd lowest amount of funding. It’s a formula—Local Community Area. But I wouldn’t move to areas that receive the highest per-pupil funding either.


58 posted on 03/29/2022 9:42:39 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: CodeToad

Wow—you only hire PhDs? Only 2% of the United States population has a PhD. Very rare.

Well, the Bell Curve does suggest that the very brightest should be hired for any job—bus boy, whatever. Choosing from only PhDs would be one way to guarantee you are indeed hiring the brightest people.


59 posted on 03/29/2022 9:46:00 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s “progress” for you.


60 posted on 03/29/2022 9:49:37 AM PDT by windsorknot
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