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What is Really Going on in Ukraine? An Alternative Scenario
Gateway Pundit ^ | Feb. 28, 2022 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 02/28/2022 5:38:24 AM PST by Rennes Templar

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To: Rennes Templar

What happens when Putin wins?


He wins the battle and loses the war. Too few are paying attention to the fact that Putin is jeopardizing the wealth of the 500 or so oligarchs in Russia who own everything.

They are the ones who will be hurt most by this war and when you cost a Russian Oligarch billions you might not like the result.

An alternative view but one that seems quite valid. The media coverage is all over the place on both sides but as with most things in life you follow the money......


61 posted on 02/28/2022 6:11:37 AM PST by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: BobL

That has absolutely no correlation with Putin’s army invading Ukraine, a non-NATO member.


62 posted on 02/28/2022 6:11:54 AM PST by ScottinVA (Enough. Cage the libs.. now. )
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To: Chainmail

> Gosh - another Russian cheerleader masquerading as a “conservative”. We done, Comrade.

Perhaps, but probably a better description of whats going on that the nonsense spewed on the evening news.


63 posted on 02/28/2022 6:13:00 AM PST by glorgau
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To: BlackAdderess

My wife is a slightly better pistol shot than me, so my experience bears that out. The fact that she shoots better without her glasses on is still perplexing.

Still, a clean sniper wearing shiny rings is a bit much. Plus, combatants don’t teleport into position to shoot. They often walk while carrying a bunch of heavy stuff. That’s the real reason why women in combat is a problem.

This story is fake news. We are getting a steady diet of it.


64 posted on 02/28/2022 6:13:25 AM PST by cdcdawg (Everyone who disagrees with me is a Qtard blogger!!!!)
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To: ScottinVA

“That has absolutely no correlation with Putin’s army invading Ukraine, a non-NATO member.”

Perhaps in your world, but during the Cold War, trying to bring either country into NATO would have launched WW3.


65 posted on 02/28/2022 6:13:31 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: Pxzftrnqfrn
Either Russia’s military is a joke and we have been lied to about the need to fund NATO at the level we have been doing...or this article may have some truth.

We've been lied to about Russia for 70 years or more. This author is as bad as any other Commie-doom-porn peddler. The commentary about the Javelins makes no sense whatsoever, unless you consider Ukrainians to be little more than club-swinging chimps incapable of basic instructions.

For ANYONE to make any definitive assessment of 'whats actually happening and going to happen' in this newly-minted conflict is stupid and likely to be disproven.
66 posted on 02/28/2022 6:14:22 AM PST by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: Hot Tabasco

“To do so is in violation of the Geneva Convention and considered a war crime..... “

Ask the Serbs, who had civilian targets in Belgrade bombed for weeks by NATO, whether there was any war crime trials. So, kind of subjective on the issue of war crimes.


67 posted on 02/28/2022 6:15:39 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: Rennes Templar

lol you can’t cut off the fuel to a modern army in a city. They will just pull up to any gas station. They are not dependant solely on military provided fuel.


68 posted on 02/28/2022 6:15:42 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: BobL

“Not too difficult to take out power plants and substations, after all.”

To me, that is what validates this point of view. War is a nasty business, there has been lots of killing on both sides.

But leaving the power network standing shows a long-view decision. The Russians would rather not have to rebuild it if they can avoid it.


69 posted on 02/28/2022 6:17:02 AM PST by Not_Who_U_Think
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To: BobL

Ukraine was not brought into NATO.... but in YOUR world, even talk of eventually doing so warranted a Russian invasion?


70 posted on 02/28/2022 6:17:54 AM PST by ScottinVA (Enough. Cage the libs.. now. )
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To: Rennes Templar

Russians has quite different strategy unlike the Americans.
They go after the leadership by way of spec forces.
E.g. If Russians went after Sadaam, they would parachute airborne troupes to Baghdad airport, land transport airplanes there and capture Sadaam and his honchos first. Then just take over the rest of the army, which by that time would have no leadership.
Not that stupid, actually. It saves the hardware, which Russians do not have that much. It also preserves the captured country for further exploitations and saves lives of the opponent rank and file.
But they failed in Ukraine. Zelensky is still roaming the streets of Kyiv. He knows that he is the target, so he is deliberately touting them!
As long as Zelensky is free in Kyiv, Russian are loosing!


71 posted on 02/28/2022 6:19:32 AM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: Rennes Templar
Thanks for posting the article.
I've yet to figure out the Russian strategy thus far. It has certainly not looked like Blitzkrieg, or Shock & Awe.
I'm stuck caring for my Dad a couple of days a week, and FOX is on 24 hours a day! Talk about biased propaganda, and fear porn.
The other thing I'm noticing is the gradual percentage of land occupied by the Russians each day. The appear to be creating a land bridge to the Crimea. That would be an obvious objective.
72 posted on 02/28/2022 6:20:19 AM PST by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: cdcdawg

She may well have done what they say she has. The thing I’ve noticed is that you have some exceptional heroics going on over there, and disinformation being what it is will do things like slap fake footage on the name “ghost of Kyiv” and then say “gosh, this is fake footage, the story itself must be fake too.” When of course that doesn’t automatically follow.


73 posted on 02/28/2022 6:20:50 AM PST by BlackAdderess (Hope for the best, prepare for the worst)
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To: Rennes Templar; LS; SunkenCiv; Red Badger; BenLurkin; Kaslin; Liz

Interesting analysis. It certainly contradicts the mainstream propaganda (er, analysis). Which only makes it more likely to be correct.


74 posted on 02/28/2022 6:21:10 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (Method, motive, and opportunity: No morals, shear madness and hatred by those who cheat.)
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To: EBH

Yea, no buying selling or trading without the mark of the beast,
Many will deliver their souls to Satan there..

We will need underground
Networks to use gold and silver.

I expect great persecution
Of Christians and Jews..
The unholy trio, biden(obamma,Clinton and corrupt cronies), Xi, and putin
Usher in the beast and the
World will be so glad they
Have food, they will worship
The beast..and persecute all “un woke”
Folks who chose God..

Come Lord..my 2 cents

Wrote a Convoy Song..blues rock music videos ..its free..smile

https://rumble.com/vvvi0b-we-got-us-a-convoy.html


75 posted on 02/28/2022 6:21:31 AM PST by aces (and )
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To: Rennes Templar

What’s really going on? In most cases you can watch the leftwing news outlets and flip their message by 180 degrees and you’ll be somewhere closer to the truth.

Remember we were all told that DJT is a secret Russian agent.


76 posted on 02/28/2022 6:23:39 AM PST by CodeJockey (If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes journalism. )
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To: ScottinVA

Here are some Child’s Rules of being Contrary so you fit in:

If X says you should be free but X is not your friend you say you don’t want to be free.

If X says you should like your mom but X is not your friend you now hate your mom.

If X says they are rooting for you favorite baseball team but X is not your friend you root for your team’s arch rival.


77 posted on 02/28/2022 6:24:11 AM PST by BiglyCommentary
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To: cdcdawg

“My wife is a slightly better pistol shot than me, so my experience bears that out. The fact that she shoots better without her glasses on is still perplexing.

Still, a clean sniper wearing shiny rings is a bit much. Plus, combatants don’t teleport into position to shoot. They often walk while carrying a bunch of heavy stuff. That’s the real reason why women in combat is a problem.

This story is fake news. We are getting a steady diet of it.”

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You are correct. Taking citizens, many that have never held a rifle in the hands and have no training or organization and expect them to engage with regular troops is a sign of desperation not a winning strategy.

I don’t understand the goal of those who are critical of the accuracy of the news coming from this crisis calling friends of putin. Reality is reality, Ukraine is going to lose this war is spectacular fashion the only question is when. And even if I’m wrong, the US taxpayer is going to suffer and the US economy is going to take a huge hit.

Personally I have no dog in this fight and consider it naked aggression on behalf of russia. The west has bungled this in particular the biden adm. that doesn’t mean I rooting for the russians, I’m not.


78 posted on 02/28/2022 6:30:02 AM PST by fatboy
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To: Chainmail

I think the Putineers here are just fine with it. And if you object to a old KGB psychopath playing Stratego with real countries, you’re a neocon warmonger crypto lefty. What a world we’ve woken up to!


79 posted on 02/28/2022 6:30:49 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: ScottinVA

“Ukraine was not brought into NATO.... but in YOUR world, even talk of eventually doing so warranted a Russian invasion?”

Yep, and if they weren’t going to ever join NATO, they should have announced it, as Russian requested. Then I might actually be on your side if Russia still went in.


80 posted on 02/28/2022 6:31:35 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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