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How to design a sail that won't tear or melt on an interstellar voyage
Phys.org ^ | 2/16/2022 | Evan Lerner

Posted on 02/17/2022 3:40:02 AM PST by LibWhacker

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1 posted on 02/17/2022 3:40:02 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Why, we have just the thing.

https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/mit-plastic-stronger-than-steel


2 posted on 02/17/2022 3:42:35 AM PST by Jonty30 (How can you claim to help me with my healthcare costs when you can't pay for your own?)
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I remember that article, but it doesn’t say anything about withstanding high temperature/heat. Definitely deserves a look, though.


3 posted on 02/17/2022 3:53:26 AM PST by LibWhacker
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I’m thinking of meteorites bouncing off of it. Maybe they can put a heatshield in front of the sail.


4 posted on 02/17/2022 3:55:19 AM PST by Jonty30 (How can you claim to help me with my healthcare costs when you can't pay for your own?)
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To: LibWhacker

Don’t be like the Greek God Icarus, who flew too close to the Sun while using his handcrafted Waxen Wings.
It’s a lesson you only learn once.


5 posted on 02/17/2022 3:55:34 AM PST by lee martell
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To: LibWhacker

bkmk


6 posted on 02/17/2022 3:57:04 AM PST by sauropod (Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad. Life is risk, your highness.)
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To: LibWhacker
Concept central to Niven and Pournelle's sci-fi novel The Mote in God's Eye, forty+ years ago. I don't think it was new even then. These guys are just filling in the details.
7 posted on 02/17/2022 3:57:45 AM PST by Chad C. Mulligan (qd4)
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Sounds of giverment munnny.
Next up a giant flashlight tied to the ass end pointing backwards under the premise that action and reaction will apply to photons.7


8 posted on 02/17/2022 4:18:18 AM PST by Recompennation (Don’t blame me my vote didn’t count )
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"Concept central to Niven and Pournelle's sci-fi novel The Mote in God's Eye, forty+ years ago. I don't think it was new even then. These guys are just filling in the details."

Or the world's madness is driving them Crazy Eddie.

9 posted on 02/17/2022 4:25:49 AM PST by buckalfa (America is the only nation where a person can be both fat and poor at the same time.)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

I don’t remember if I listened to that audiobook. I know I listened to nearly everything related to Ringworld.


10 posted on 02/17/2022 4:32:36 AM PST by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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Imagine the mass of all the shielding, not to mention the effect of things bouncing off if it (deceleration). It would completely destroy the concept of the lightsail. Better to let things pass right through.


11 posted on 02/17/2022 5:04:22 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Beat me to it. Great book series.


12 posted on 02/17/2022 5:04:43 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: LibWhacker

How does it slow down?


13 posted on 02/17/2022 5:13:10 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: LibWhacker

So, 800,000 years to reach Alpha Centauri by sail ship.
At the half way mark, wouldn’t the photons from AC work against the solar photons? I guess we’ll have to wait 400,000 years to find out


14 posted on 02/17/2022 5:31:37 AM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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That would suck, wouldn’t it?


15 posted on 02/17/2022 5:33:48 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Jonty30
"meteorites bouncing off"

With the speeds of objects in space, there would only be impacts.

16 posted on 02/17/2022 5:40:40 AM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: Vermont Lt

Only, theoretically suck, but yes.
Square riggers could sail the trade winds, “downhill” or “before the wind”. Much harder to go into the wind without “tacking” a zig zag course.


17 posted on 02/17/2022 5:43:12 AM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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“Maybe they can put a heatshield in front of the sail”.

Or make a spinnaker out of “Flex Tape”?

A sail such as this one could be made of aluminized mylar—and put into a synchronized solar orbit—limiting any heat-gain on planet Earth.

(That is, if we can agree on what temperature Earth needs to be).


18 posted on 02/17/2022 6:04:33 AM PST by Does so (Americans had no desire for war between 1939 and 1941. Rheinland? Sometimes War Finds YOU!)
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To: Does so

Hamsters on a wheel... that’s the future of space power 🐹


19 posted on 02/17/2022 6:13:07 AM PST by Michigan Bowhunter
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And how are they going to get data back from it without an antenna? A 3x3 meter aperture (gain 40 dB at 3 GHz) at a 4 LY distance is a sick joke for a radio link budget. But, academicians don’t worry their little Marx beards about such trivia as the ability to send radio signals back from a star probe.


20 posted on 02/17/2022 12:43:29 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (HONK HONK, Clown World!)
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