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Triple “Vaccinated” Deaths Skyrocketed 495% in January; 80% of All New Covid Cases Are Fully Jabbed
NoQ Report ^ | 15 February 2022 | Ethan Huff

Posted on 02/15/2022 8:37:21 AM PST by Fractal Trader

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To: DugwayDuke

i understand how it is entirely possible, however measles was no big deal for us as kids.

For now tetanus (via DPT) vaccine as well as healthy diet is sufficient for mine until they are 10-12

Personally know a couple people whose children had bad outcomes from normal vaccines and while I am supportive of vaccines I don’t see any reason right now to subject them to a ton of shit they don’t need.

Obviously circumstances would change where the risk/reward calculation changes substantially as would my decision.

Secondly, if other kids are vaxxed they shouldn’t worry about mine not being.


61 posted on 02/15/2022 1:39:05 PM PST by Manuel OKelley
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To: DugwayDuke
Despite your evident disdain for the military and despite your never having to produce one does not prove that vaccine cards never existed.

Actually, I spent 8 years in Military service to the USA. My only regret, I didn’t kill more communists.
62 posted on 02/15/2022 2:16:55 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: RideForever
Considering the definition of 'unvaccinated' includes the 'vaccinated' and the 'boosted'.

In the most recent data set:

The unvaccinated are 2.17x more likely to be hospitalized than those with 1 dose of the vaccine.

The unvaccinated are 1.25x more like to be hospitalized than those with 2 doses.

The unvaccinated are 4.6x more likely to be hospitalized than those with 3 doses/booster (I understated it before).

In fact, the previously vaccinated who get the 'booster' jab and show serious symptoms within 10 days, are 'unvaccinated'. Isn't that right?

No. They woould be in either the 1 or 2 dose categories.

63 posted on 02/15/2022 2:24:26 PM PST by semimojo
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Jan_Sobieski wrote: “Actually, I spent 8 years in Military service to the USA. My only regret, I didn’t kill more communists.”

I thank you for your service. I spent eight years active and 14 in the NG.


64 posted on 02/15/2022 2:39:25 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: semimojo
No. They woould be in either the 1 or 2 dose categories.

How so? They are expired. Hence the requirement to get the 'booster'. But they may be fatally tainted by the 'jab' booster, and you need to keep the death rate lower for the 'jabbed'/B1/... so shift these victims to the 'unvaccinated'.

And it facilitates the targeting and removal of the 'Bluebloods', or naturally immune, which would correspond to the 'control group' of any scientific experiment of merit.

65 posted on 02/15/2022 3:56:06 PM PST by RideForever (Damn, another dangling par .....)
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To: semimojo
Because according to this Scottish data you have 1/10 the chance of dying from Covid if you're fully vaccinated.

That's misleading.

If unvaccinated person has a 99.7% chance of not dying from Omicron, then any difference in survivability between the vaxxed and the unvaxxed is very small. Even if the difference is ten to one as you state, then the unvaccinated would die at the rate of 99.7% and the unvaccinated would have a rate of about 99.97%. That's a 0.27% difference.

Add to that, after about ten weeks, the small advantage of the vaccinated over the unvaccinated wears off and even becomes negative. So a person would have to take on the risks of vaccination every 10 weeks to have any very small advantage at all.

66 posted on 02/15/2022 5:04:25 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign; semimojo
Correction:

Even if the difference is ten to one as you state, then the unvaccinated would not die at the rate of 99.7% and the unvaccinated would have a rate of about 99.97%. That's a 0.27% difference.

67 posted on 02/15/2022 5:31:01 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: RideForever
How so? They are expired. Hence the requirement to get the 'booster'.

What? The categories in the report are unvaccinated, 1 dose, 2 doses, and 3 doses/booster.

And it facilitates the targeting and removal of the 'Bluebloods', or naturally immune, which would correspond to the 'control group' of any scientific experiment of merit.

Uh, no, it doesn't.

68 posted on 02/15/2022 6:10:56 PM PST by semimojo
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To: FreeReign
Add to that, after about ten weeks, the small advantage of the vaccinated over the unvaccinated wears off and even becomes negative.

Yeah. Sure it does.

69 posted on 02/15/2022 6:11:53 PM PST by semimojo
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To: DugwayDuke

If you are ex-military, You should know better than to support medical tyranny on kids. This is communist Shiite. Quit being a coward and face the virus, and the filthy communists like a man. If we die, we die like men protecting our loved ones! Not cowering in fear of a cold and corrupt Government mandates!


70 posted on 02/15/2022 8:18:48 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: DugwayDuke

...vaccine passports are nothing new. Vaccinations have been a part of your life since you were born. You had to prove vaccination status to go to school. This isn’t a fundamental change and the vaccines are not dangerous failures.
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I am 79. I’ve had smallpox vaccine, as did my entire cohort. Not one breakthrough. Never *breakthroughs* in these numbers, ever, from any vax except maybe the *flu* shots and again, not in these amounts, even accounting for discrepancies in numbers vaxxed.

Had all the childhood diseases. Never got them again. Not one of my cohort did, either.

Did NOT need to *prove* vax status to go to any level of school. MD simply checked me off as recovered. Never had to take a test for titers.

Had diphtheria vax, Never had “breakthrough* diphtheria.

Had tetanus vax 3x over 66 years, the last 2 for cause.

Had Yellow Fever vax for entry into Papua in 1976. Only place that checked. No breakthrough.

At the time I visited Australia, no one in either country mandated anything for malaria. When we arrived, locals told us everyone there had it. So we went to the pharmacy and bought anti-malaria pills OTC. Never got malaria.

NEVER before has anyone needed to prove vax status to travel internally, to Canada, to Mexico, the Caribbean, to French Polynesia, to Australia, to New Zealand, to Hawaii....all places I visited in the past.

Quarantines were of the symptomatic ill and I remember them for schoolmates in the 1950s during a couple of flus from China/Hong Kong.

Needed a TB test periodically in school. Needed TB test to work in a hospital and as a waitress. Have never ever anywhere I have traveled needed a test/vax proof to enter any business at all.

Gave birth in a hospital in 1965 with no need for proof of any vax. Had major surgery in 1981 and needed no proof of any vax or recovery from any disease. 3 years later, I was informed I had received tainted blood and had to have an HIV test, which was thankfully negative. Not one medical professional even apologized, BTW.

Never before have I seen tens of millions of people all over the world standing up in protest over any vax. Never.

Never since the civil rights integration demonstrations have I seen police beating people in the street, spraying them with tear gas, using water cannons on protestors of a vax until recently, all across the planet. And all that does is harden resistance and make it personal, which is apparently the reason for the assaults.

There are exempt classes: certain government agencies that deal with the Executive and with health regulation, people who work in pharma, vaxxine production and their bosses in the executive suites. Illegal immigrants. Afghan refugees. And the last two are casually given Ivermectine.

Either you have some arcane need to be contrarian or you cannot process tens of millions of humans across the globe willing to lose everything including their lives at the hand of the government(s) to resist a mandated vax. I suppose you may have a huge portfolio of pharma stocks or a pension that is paid by the same industry. But all you do on these threads is defend the indefensible, nit pick the meaning of *is* and sling ad hominems. You and a very small number of fellow-travelers smugly assert that all those tens of millions of resisters are somehow deficient in intellect, read trash sources, and somehow missed an historical norm that you assert is how it has always been. Some of this group assert they work in hospitals that defy the stats published in countless other countries and even in the USA.
The disparities of stated experiences against a firehose of data that is reluctantly and incrementally being admitted to by the purveyors and enablers rise to the level of gaslighting.

Maybe all of you should go public with your superior knowledge and publicly debate all comers from Malone to the truckers. Then we could judge the validity of your opinion.

You could all, perhaps, engage publicly with the people dealing with adverse reactions and educate them, as well. You could all form a public interest group and sue the purveyors of misinformation. Perhaps test some vials of vax yorselves and make the results public. Pay for some autopsies to disprove what pathologists in numerous countries have shown as their findings.

As to the Expose: they do not generate the data they print. They publish other studies, national stats and papers from people whose credentials are public. Perhaps you can point to reasoned rebuttals based on the same facts rather than the censorial notices that quote the CDC, the WHO or others so-called authorities with public conflicts of interest.

Meanwhile, be sure and get all your safe and effective boosters.


71 posted on 02/15/2022 9:28:17 PM PST by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: reformedliberal

addendum:

Forgot: 2 dose oral polio at age 24 when my 2-year-old received his. Lucky for us, no breakthrough and I had put it off due to published accounts of vaxxed contracting polio.


72 posted on 02/15/2022 9:45:31 PM PST by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: reformedliberal

reformedliberal wrote: “I am 79. I’ve had smallpox vaccine, as did my entire cohort. Not one breakthrough. Never *breakthroughs* in these numbers, ever, from any vax except maybe the *flu* shots and again, not in these amounts, even accounting for discrepancies in numbers vaxxed.”

The small pox vaccine has one of the highest rates of effectiveness but it is not perfect. BTW, not only was my cohort required to prove vaccinations, I had to take the small pox vaccine several times. Every year we had to line up and be inspected to see if the vaccine had ‘taken’. First, I had to take it in the first grade, again in the second, and once again in the third when it finally ‘took’.

Here are some facts on the small pox vaccine.

https://www.health.ny.gov/publications/7022/

reformedliberal wrote: “NEVER before has anyone needed to prove vax status to travel internally, to Canada, to Mexico, the Caribbean, to French Polynesia, to Australia, to New Zealand, to Hawaii....all places I visited in the past.”

Actually they have had to prove vax status. Here is just one example:

https://www.cruisecritic.com/articles.cfm?ID=4652

reformedliberal wrote: “There are exempt classes: certain government agencies that deal with the Executive and with health regulation, people who work in pharma, vaxxine production and their bosses in the executive suites. Illegal immigrants. Afghan refugees. And the last two are casually given Ivermectine.”

If by ‘exempt classes’ you’re trying to claim that certain groups are exempt from the vaccination madantes. That is another misrepresentation. It is true that certain groups of federal employees are not covered by one of the mandates. There are multiple mandates which cover almost all.

BTW, no one disputes the effectiveness of ivermectin for parasites which is given routinely to those coming from certain areas like Afghanistan and certain illegal immigrants. They’re given ivermectin to treat parasites, not covid.
reformedliberal wrote: “Either you have some arcane need to be contrarian or you cannot process tens of millions of humans across the globe willing to lose everything including their lives at the hand of the government(s) to resist a mandated vax. I suppose you may have a huge portfolio of pharma stocks or a pension that is paid by the same industry. But all you do on these threads is defend the indefensible, nit pick the meaning of *is* and sling ad hominems.”

Curiously, you accuse me of ‘slinging ad hominins’ just after accusing me of posting here to protect my investment portfolio which is an ad hominin attack by yourself.

BTW, I’ve not supported vaccine mandates. I have posted here to support the vaccines exposing misinformation about their effectiveness and safety. Things like the vaccines are a plot to decimate the world population, that these are ‘fake vaccines’ since they are not 100% effective (no vaccines are), or vaccines have not been adequately tested (they are some of the most tested vaccines ever).

reformedliberal wrote: “As to the Expose: they do not generate the data they print. They publish other studies, national stats and papers from people whose credentials are public. Perhaps you can point to reasoned rebuttals based on the same facts rather than the censorial notices that quote the CDC, the WHO or others so-called authorities with public conflicts of interest.”

I’ve posted multiple fact checks demonstrating their failure to vet their information. Since Expose is facing bankruptcy, they have a very good reason to publish the most outrageous click bait claims to attract webviews. That is a conflict of interest.

reformedliberal wrote: “Maybe all of you should go public with your superior knowledge and publicly debate all comers from Malone to the truckers. Then we could judge the validity of your opinion.”

reformedliberal wrote: “You could all, perhaps, engage publicly with the people dealing with adverse reactions and educate them, as well. You could all form a public interest group and sue the purveyors of misinformation. Perhaps test some vials of vax yorselves and make the results public. Pay for some autopsies to disprove what pathologists in numerous countries have shown as their findings.”

What a double standard. You claim that I should debate ‘all comers’, especially Malone. I’ve not seen you use your “superior knowledge and publicly debate all comers” to support your claims that the vaccines are ineffective and dangerous vaccines.

Have you formed a public interest group and sue ‘Big Pharma’ or the CDC or the WHO? Have you paid to test some vials of vax yourself and make the results public? Have you paid for some autopsies to disprove what pathologists in numerous countries have shown as their findings? If you haven’t done these things then your once again applying a double standard.

I have no doubt that there some who have experienced side effects from the vaccine. I do doubt the claims that the vaccines have killed more people than the virus. I do doubt the claims made by representing the VARES data.


73 posted on 02/16/2022 5:08:11 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Jan_Sobieski wrote: “Quit being a coward and face the virus, and the filthy communists like a man. If we die, we die like men protecting our loved ones! Not cowering in fear of a cold and corrupt Government mandates!”

It’s been proven time and time again through out history that the best way to protect your loved ones is to get them vaccinated.


74 posted on 02/16/2022 5:09:42 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

If there’s nosocomial spread in hospitals, then people who are in for something else but die of great coof are likely dying after being infected by vaxxed superspreader employees.

They might have survived what they were in for if their Deep State’s mandatory vaxx program hadn’t ensured nosocomial spread.


75 posted on 02/16/2022 5:13:53 AM PST by mewzilla (God bless Canada's Freedom Truckers!)
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To: mewzilla

mewzilla wrote: “If there’s nosocomial spread in hospitals, then people who are in for something else but die of great coof are likely dying after being infected by vaxxed superspreader employees. They might have survived what they were in for if their Deep State’s mandatory vaxx program hadn’t ensured nosocomial spread.”

Nothing like exaggerated speculation. But even if that were true (and it isn’t) it is an argument for patients and workers to be fully vaccinated. It is also an argument that healthcare workers need to be tested regularly for the virus.

The vaccinated are less likely to become infected than are the unvaccinated, the timeframes where the vaccinated can spread the virus is less than the unvaccinated, the vaccinated have less a viral load, and the vaccinated recover quicker than the unvaccinated.


76 posted on 02/16/2022 7:59:11 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: FreeReign; RideForever; Jan_Sobieski; Jane Long; ransomnote; mewzilla; reformedliberal
And speaking of "the Scottish data":

Anti-vaxxer concerns force removal of deaths by vaccine status data from Public Health Scotland reports
Thursday, 17th February 2022, By Conor Matchett
https://www.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/anti-vaxxer-concerns-force-removal-of-deaths-by-vaccine-status-data-3571856

Public Health Scotland will stop publishing data on Covid deaths and hospitalisations by vaccination status due to concerns the data is being wilfully misrepresented by anti-vaccination campaigners.

Nothing says "transparency" and "solid data" like hiding your numbers.  winking face face with tears of joy face with tears of joy

I guess the vaxx touts on this thread just got the rug pulled out from under them by their own team...

 face with tears of joy face with tears of joy face with tears of joy face with tears of joy

77 posted on 02/17/2022 10:21:48 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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